[torontocbm] Re: Not the friendliest of places
- From: Rob Adlers <rob.adlers@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:21:15 -0500
Gil,
What you mention below is the same in any other community group or
organization. It's a normal part of social interactions between people
to have these things going on. I have yet to find an organization where
this doesn't occur. You either accept it or move on.
Computer clubs used to be full of what society considered 'anti-social'
folks. Let's just call them introverts now shall we? A lot of the time
logical thought and resolution is mistaken for egotism. Sure, egos also
came into the mix. Since I've been in the computer industry, I have seen
a dramatic shift in people getting into computers, and this perception
and reality has all but disappeared. I find today's TPUG (as I joined
early 2000's) has a nice mix of personalities. Sure, I don't agree with
everything that is decided, but then again, I'm not part of the board to
change anything, so there it is.
You're one to question, test, poke, prod... it's your nature. I have
observed this over the last while. That's what you bring to the group.
Some people may consider that a hostile personality, but we're not going
to change who you are, and sometimes your questioning helps others with
things. Where some are quiet, you are vocal.
The fact that TPUG has survived all these years is a testament to the
dedication of the core group to keep it alive. I think that speaks
volumes over some of the negativities that may or may not have occurred
in past/present.
You can't expect to change others. You can, however, change how you
react to things.
Rob
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Gil Winkler wrote:
As I stated in a previous post, TPUG, because of the ego and clique
factor has NEVER,
in my mind, been a friendly place. That is not to say there are not
friendly people in the
organisation. I have been delighted and enjoyed meeting people I had
not seen in 20+ years
at WoC and was surprised by the warmth of some of the members there.
But again, some of the
egos and posers were a bit much to take, and the on-line community can
be positively vicious.
I DO remember TPUG in the early to mid 1980s and there was a LOT of
bullying, posing, backstabbing,
snobbishness, self-promoting-egomaniacs, etc.....perhaps this is why
TPUG eventually imploded.
Some current members (They know who they are) should take the time to
better themselves and represent
the community in a positive light instead of just thinking of
themselves and their friends only.
Opinions?
Regards,
Gil Winkler
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