[torontocbm] Re: torontocbm Digest V5 #176

  • From: Jason Compton <jcompton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:53:08 -0600

Jim "The Brain" Brain wrote:
    d.. On reflections, the "pack up at 11PM and then setup again in this little 
hotel room", had significant drawbacks.
On the positive side, the mercury in the hotel party room topped 16C/60F. I wish I could say the same about the church gym.

(I know it's Canada. Keep the outside as cold as you like! Insides are for being not-cold, though, please and thank you.)
  To be fair, the same thing occurs at ECCC, so it is not without precedent, 
but I simply love the CCCC setup.  Unpack gear on Friday, stay up till 3AM 
chatting and coding, roll out of bed at 9AM and go to the floor directly, demo 
the day away, do the dinner at 6PM, come back and hack until 3AM, then roll out 
of bed at 10AM on Sunday, pack, and leave.
(At the risk of getting things off the subject of WoC 2009, we're trying to put together a similar arrangement for ECCC '09. As the years have gone by it's been easier to squeeze more concessions out of the hotel for this kind of thing.)
  I know the church provides a nice venue (big, unlike ECCC, which is a 
drawback)
(We were a little surprised at how crowded ECCC got this year--the "everything in dead dad's garage must go!" family sellers were unexpected exhibitors and made that half of the room tight. The fact that attendees were able to rob them blind of software should have made up for most inconveniences. The loss-making ECCC model makes the organizer reluctant to shell out for extra rooms which in most years would go completely unused.)
    d.. A forum for prepping for the WoC would be really nice.  CCCC offers 
one, where folks can trade rideshare info, plan to bring things, etc.  Most 
won't want to join this mailing list (and I don't think you want that either) 
just to prep for the show.
That's a good idea for both WoC and ECCC.


Joe "The Palumbo" Palumbo said:

In 2004 we held it in a hotel, but no food was allowed in the room. We paid a 
$100 clean up fee to allow the anniversary cake in the room that year. Many 
hotels looked at would not allow outside food into the hall; as they want that 
source of revenue. And while they may give a discounted room price if we allow 
them to hold the breakfast/lunch/dinner, it ups the overall price to those 
staying at the hotel, and in many cases uses them to finance the extra need for 
local visitors for that same included meal....or even pop/water/tea/coffee 
sandwiches, etc provided in the hall.
I don't know that anybody has ever said "I didn't like that C= expo very much--they didn't have food available for purchase." The hassle of organizing an eats committee is probably not worth it, particularly not in a city with zillions of places to go out and eat.

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