hello friends, i am afraid i am an impetuous person, so when i see "free downloads" i go for it, particularly if it concerns music programmes, during the past fortnight i downloaded a programme that said it would really clean up my computer every time i switched the computer on, so joe downloads it, doesn't he, i started to install it, and just as it was about to install a message came up saying "just one off payment from your credit card and this programme will install", no way, i don't like giving my credit card details over the internet, particularly to a company i know nothing about, then the trouble started, i couldn't uninstall the stupid thing, it jammed up my computer it was not a virus, and it caused me all sorts of problems it took the great patience of paul traynor to sort me out, i've learned my lesson, and in future if i see anything that i think might assist me on my computer i will run it past someone who knows a lot more than i do, and who can advise me, secondly, may be i'm the only one on this list who didn't know that i had to wait until "outlook express" had finished before getting out of it, but i have learned now to wait until it is finished, may be i'm not making myself clear on this, i got my "outlook express" in a terrible mess, but now thanks to paul it is healthy again, sorry for going on so long, regard to all, travel safely, joe. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.0/248 - Release Date: 01/02/2006