Thanks for the response.
I have my APOs running on all platforms (with registration and initialization
as you mention). The bigger issue is the lack of “category” support on
anything < win10. Most games do not use the eCategory parameter.
I have some work arounds, but looking for a cleaner (more reliable) solution
for associating and APO with an app.
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In the meantime for Windows 7, I suggest registering your APO using both the
LFX/GFX property keys and the SFX/MFX/EFX property keys. Windows 7 will
ignore the SFX/MFX/EFX property keys and instantiate you as an LFX, using
APOInitSystemEffects. Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 will instantiate you as an
SFX, using APOInitSystemEffects2.
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Microsoft’s Windows 7 support goes away real soon…
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/matthew_van_eerde/2018/09/27/so-i-have-this-audio-problem-on-windows-7/
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Here’s a partial list of some popular applications which set
AudioClientProperties.eCategory, which in turn induces
APOInitSystemEffects2.AudioProcessingMode:
The Windows shell itself
Cortana
Edge
Skype
Movies & TV
The on-screen touch keyboard
Music
Store
Microsoft Photos
Microsoft Solitaire
Netflix
League of Legends
网易云音乐 (music.163.com <http://music.163.com/>)
Destiny 2
QQ Instant Messenger
Windows Camera
Overwatch
…
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Great, would you mind sharing the list of the known apps that support
eCategory? That would be very useful.
We are interested in all games, media player, and communication apps
(non-skype).
Also, what do you suggest for Win7?
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 1:10 PM Matthew van Eerde
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Any particular applications that you care about though? Not looking for a
complete list (I actually have a complete list.)
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I would say over 90% of the applications that I’ve seen don’t use the
eCategory…too many to list here. That’s the long-term solution and it’s not
backwards compatible for Win7 which I still need to support and be in feature
parity with Win10. We are still seeing over 30% of users on Win7.
Bob
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Please don’t. Instead, let’s get everyone using
AudioClientProperties.eCategory.
Do you have any particular applications in mind?
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Ideally some processing could change depending on the application. Many
(most) Win10 applications don’t use the Application Processing Modes and this
isn’t available on Win7 / Win8. I’d like to change the processing based on
the application type in these cases.
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No; why do you want this?
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Is there any way to identify the audio session or application (by pid?) that
the SFX APO is being created for?
Bob
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