Note also that there are to commands that work during stop mode
likewise (i.e. not opening the dialog):
"Set (or Extend) Left/Right Selection".
I use them all the time and never touch x or p (they are essentially
the same as the Bracket keys).
Here's a tip in case that you should have missed the beginning of a
selection due to some sluggish response of Audacity:
- Press "Preview before Selection Start", normally Shift+F5 and press
than either x or left bracket at the right position with some
anticipation.
Works of course also for the right edge, the shortcuts will just be different.
In general, independence of edit and play cursor is a good thing,
especially if you want to make music.
Robert
On 28/08/2017, Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, when stopped. Note carefully that I am talking about using left
bracket when the file is either playing or paused. If you use it then, it
moves the cursor to the current place you are in the file.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Downie
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 5:33 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Clips etc
Sameer is correct. In earlier versions of Audacity shift-a jumped the
cursor to that point. By going to Keyboard in Preferences you can change
default key combinations if you wish.
Re Gene’s point about adjusting the cursor position: When pressing left
bracket ([) when stopped, a dialog will appear that allows you to set the
time precisely.
Given the amount of queries about this and similar issues, those who are
still confused may want to check out the audio introduction I did a few
weeks ago.
Andrew
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, 28 August 2017 5:31 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Clips etc
You can move the cursor to the current location with the left bracket.
Either press it while the file is playing at the place you want it to be or
pause the file and press it. I don't know what the case in Audacity these
days because I seldom use it any longer. But a good while ago, when I would
press left bracket, it didn't take immediate effect, leaving the cursor
perhaps a quarter second farther to the right than I wanted it. You can
hear where the cursor is by stopping the file after the cursor is set and
then pressing play. Play always starts from the position of the cursor.
I'll let others discuss moving the cursor to the left a small bit if you
want or need to. I know a way but its cumbersome and there may be others,
especially after all these years of new versions. You can experiment and
get a feel of how much ahead you need to press left bracket and, by pressing
it just slightly ahead of where you want to be, you may save your self the
need to adjust the cursor some of the time.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Andre Watson
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:30 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; 'Keith Heltsley'
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Clips etc
Hi all,
I’m trying to do what Bonita previously asked. I’m trying to insert clips
into a project. When I press the letter x while the project is playing, the
project does not stop playing. And then when I stop it with the p key or
space bar, it only puts my clips in the beginning of the project.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brandão de
Sousa
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:03 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Keith Heltsley <keith@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Clips etc
Well x is your friend here.
It will put the cursor where you are listening at a given time.
I am still curious though on why the cursor does not track the play head ...
I have something saying me that I am loosing a revolutionary technique of
audio editing because I can not understand something that is common sense
among audio editors of every daw I can think of at the moment.
On 25/08/2017 12:55, Keith Heltsley wrote:
What are the advantages of not having the cursor track the playback
location?
For the sake of newbies who could use some training wheels, might it be
possible to have a setting in Preferences to opt for playback tracking?
To restate my first question… Why would tracking the playback location of
the cursor be a bad thing?
Trying to keep track of the cursor has been my biggest reason for not
using Audacity much. Until recently, when I was forced to use it, due to not
having software for the Mac that I typically have used on my Windows
machines for years. .
Keith Heltsley
keith@xxxxxxxxxxxx
On Aug 24, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Bonita Blankenberg
<bonitabonster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wow, that’s exactly the problem I’ve been grappling with. Could not for
the life of me understand why I could not just pause and edit something, not
realizing that the cursor is miles away from where I want it.
Makes me feel so much better, I am no techno smarty, so I really thought
I’m missing something. Your description made it much more understandable.
Thanks Marlon,
Bonita
PS, I’d like to say I live up to my name, but that would sound vane, ☺
B
From: Marlon Brandão de Sousa [mailto:splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:06 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Bonita Blankenberg; 'David Bailes'
Subject: Re: [audacity4blind] Re: Clips etc
Sorry for the incorrect shift before x I should have tested. Coming from
Mac OS where audacity is not updated (at least the accessible copy) I used
shift + a and now it is only x.
One of the things I had more difficulty in understanding the way
Audacity works is to separate selection boundaries of the cursor.
Folks,
Please do warn me if I am wrong.
The cursor is not selection dependent. The cursor is not track
dependent. The cursor is a feature that may be anywhere between the absolute
time range 0 to the last millisecond of the last track of the whole
project.
Setting the selection, (specifying a start and an end boundaries of a
piece of audio that might comprise more than one track) as far as I know,
does not affect the cursor.
Also, at least as far as I could verify, the cursor is not affected by
the play activity, meaning that you can be listening to a part of the audio
and the cursor might be in a completely different spot. This is not the way
newbies like me will imagine that because we do make a relation with a text
editor where the cursor usually follows the text being read by the screen
reader.
This is why when you pause with p and try to make operations related to
the cursor you might end up messing stuff ... because the fact you have
paused the audio does not mean that the cursor is where you are listening.
In fact, what x does as far as I know is perform a pause and automatically
put the cursor where you are listening.
Now as why this is not the default behavior I do not know ** note that
this is not a criticism but ratter something I have been curious about as
why someone would want the cursor in any point different than the place they
are listening at the moment.
But anyways understanding these concepts that by the way I have not read
anywhere, specially the fact that the cursor does not track what you are
listening has helped me a lot on my still beginning work with audacity.
btw and slightly off-topic your name Bonita means beautiful woman in
Portuguese, my native thong ... this is facinating .. I know many cases of
names in a given idiom meaning words in others.
Thanks,
Marlon
On 24/08/2017 05:31, Bonita Blankenberg wrote:
Gentlemen
Let it be known!
You are my heroes! It works, eureke, it works! The X is my new best
friend, thank you Marlon!
Have a lovely day,
Bonita
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brandão de
Sousa
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 4:19 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; David Bailes
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Clips etc
In this task X (shift + x) is your friend. It will place the cursor
right where you are listening and also will pause the sound.
In previous versions of audacity it was shift + a,
On 23/08/2017 07:10, David Bailes wrote:
Hi Bonita,
you should be able to move the cursor to wherever you want to insert
the audio, and then paste it there. Where are you wanting to insert some
audio, and are not able to do so?
David.
On 22 August 2017 at 17:46, Bonita Blankenberg
<bonitabonster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Listers
I do hope my mail finds you all well.
My apologies if I’m asking a question that has already been covered,
I’m a newby user of Audacity.
My question is, how can I insert clips into a project without having
to move to the end of the track? At the moment, I can only add things to an
existing project, if I move my curser to the end of the track and then paste
something.
Hope my question make sense.
I’m using Audacity with NVDA.
Your help will be valued.
Bonita
