[audacity4blind] Re: Help in Overlapping songs.

  • From: Robert Hänggi <aarjay.robert@xxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 10:51:21 +0200

By the way, you could first select all tracks and align them end to end.
This arranges all tracks from top to bottom in sequence, thus you hear
all tracks alone.
However, you would still have to do the overlapping yourself.
That is, moving the second track back two seconds, the third four seconds etc.
Some 5 years back, I wrote a plug-in that does all the alignment and
crossfading pretty much alone.
It's on the forum and called "Chain It up".
I should it update at some point since we have now more macro possibilities.
Robert

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You are correct Sir.

As you say, practice gives lot of confidence. Only matter is to spend some
time on it patiently.



Thanks again.

Ravi.



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Hi Ravi



That certainly explains why the alignment did not work.  Pressing j takes
you to the beginning of the track and shift-j does that and also selects all
audio between where you had so precisely placed the cursor and the
beginning.  In either case, that would mess up your alignment.

With practise these commands become second nature, but it takes a while to
be familiar with all the concepts involved.





Andrew





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Thank you Andrew. Got it clear.

Yes, the selection is what we need to be careful.

This is what messes up the overlapping.

Also, earlier I was pressing  |J| at the second song when I selected it.

But seems that should have been the reason both songs were playing together
from the beginning.

When I followed your instructions that did not happen. Thank you for your
guidance.



As you said, I am trying to practice doing it more and more before I start
my planned project.



In case if you get any idea of using the batch processing of this task
please keep me posted.



Thank you,

Ravi.



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Hi Ravi



Well done.  Audacity has a batch facility, which I have not explored at all.
 It may or may not let you align a bunch of tracks without the tedium.  At
this stage though, the practise will be helpful.

No, definitely do not reimport the songs because, if I understand correctly,
you will undo your good work.  By all means though, save the project from
time to time in case something goes horribly wrong.

You can either:

*     Import two songs and align them.
*     Import a third song and align it with the second.
*     And so on

Or:

*     Import all songs.
*     Align the second with the first.
*     Align the third with the second.
*     And so on.

Once you have more than two tracks, be careful as to which one (and only
one) you have selected.





Andrew



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If not should I save every project after each song alignment and then
reimport the songs and redo all the steps?





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Hi Andrew,



Is there any way that several songs could be aligned at once or have to be
processed one by one?



Ravi.





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Hi Andrew,



Superb! At last got it working as expected.

Thank you so much.

Regards,

Ravi.





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Hi Ravi

Let’s start with just two songs so as not to complicate the issue.  Open
Audacity and, from the File Menu, import two songs in turn.  That should
have each song on a separate track.  If you play you will hear them both at
once.  Make sure that the second track is not selected (pressing Enter on a
track selects and deselects it).  Arrow up to the first track and make sure
it is selected.

*     Press k to go to the end of the track.
*     Press comma (,) – say – three times to move back three seconds.  The
amount you go back may depend on how the song ends and how much overlap you
want.  Pressing spacebar will let you hear the end of the song.
*     Press Enter to deselect the track.
*     Arrow down to the second track and press Enter to select it.
*     Press alt-t followed by a and then followed by c and that should do the
trick.

Let us know what happens when you do that.





Andrew







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Hi Andrew,



Yes, I too suspect the same.

If so how do I get out of this please?

Regards,

Ravi.



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Hi Ravi



Are your tracks playing together only before you do the align tracks
process?  If so, that is what should happen.  If they are playing together
after you align all of them, something has gone amiss when attempting to
align them.





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Dear David, Jim, Andrew, Ted and all,



Thank you very much for all your suggestions and step by step instructions.

I am trying to fiddle with them and getting used to them.

In fact earlier, before I did this crossfading and other actions, I remember
that whatever number of tracks are imported, only the selected track was
playing.

But now all are playing together. So why I’m bit confused.

I’m afraid whether I have not noticed this correctly earlier.



Yes, as suggested the solo function works fine.

As Jim mentioned, muting is also very useful.

Let me play with this and revert back.



Thanks again.

Ravi.



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Hi Ravi,

which tracks are played does not depend on either which track is the focus
or which tracks are selected.

To listen to a single track, you can solo it. The shortcut to solo the
focused track is Shift + S. To unsolo it, you can press Shift + S.



David.



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Hi Team,



I did try crossfading couple of songs and trying the ways you have
suggested.

Now, I am having the below issue.

Whenever I open Audacity and import couple of songs and select one of them
and play.

Both the songs are playing together as crossfaded.

I have tried undo the import and remove the tracks and import fresh and
different songs.

But still when I select one of them, while the next is unselected, when
played both are playing together.

Have I messed any settings? How do I get this deactivated?

And want the individual songs to play separately?

Or only the selected one to play at a time?

Appreciate your help please.

Thanks,

Ravi.



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You want to crossfade your songs. I recommend putting each song on a
separate track.



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Hello everyone,

Greetings!

Hope this E-mail message finds all of you well & safe.



I am Ravindran from Sri Lanka. And just joined this list.

I am Blind and using Windows 10 with NVDA & Audacity latest versions.

Appreciate if someone could guide me how to overlap songs(MP3) in Audacity.

Actually, I want as below:

Assume, there are two songs. Either as separate tracks or merged in a single
track.

When the first song finishes, before it stops playing, I want the second
song to start while the first reaching its end.

We should be able to set a time period.

And should be able to get this done for a long list of songs merged in a
single music track.

Because when we merge several songs to a single track, there are silences in
between every song. But removing the silence, makes the songs play just one
after other.

But I want the songs to overlap towards the end of each song. If required
can have them as separate tracks.

Like to create a non-stop music file.

Hope my question is clear. Any suggestion would be a great help.

Please feel free to get in touch with me should you require any further
details.



Thank you, have a pleasant day!

Ravi.

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