[audacity4blind] Re: playing from the end of the selection
- From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:45:36 -0600
After seeing your message, I did a google search and found a discussion on this
list from about three years ago. I participated in it but I had forgotten
about it since I very seldom edit using Audacity and I didn't try the procedure
explained. Perhaps things have changed but my impression at the time was that
there should be a more simple way to do this. Whether a more simple way has
been implemented is something I don't know. Also, whether mhy impression is
the result of not being familiar enough with the procedure is something I'm not
sure about. So I'll leave further comment to others.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Byskov Dalgaard
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:53 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: playing from the end of the selection
Hi Gene!
The commands for moving the start or end of the selection is already
implemented. You can find more details in the guide David has written for
Audacity and screenreaders.
It works great here, though I might remap them since I mess them up sometimes,
smile.
HTH
Best regards
Thomas
Den 27/11/2014 kl. 16.09 skrev Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>:
Not just that one keystroke. There needs to be a system like that
implemented in Mp3 Direct Cut. One key plays from the start marker and
continues play for a few seconds. Another key plays from the end marker and
continues play for a few seconds. there also needs to be keys that move the
start marker back and forward in very small increments. Keys to move the end
marker in the same way should be implemented as well. If anyone interested in
these suggestions and how easy they make precise editing will experiment with
Mp3 Direct Cut, they may understand why Audacity is so cumbersome and
undesirable to use for precise editing by blind people. I suspect it is
cumbersome for sighted people as well. After all, the Mp3 Direct Cut editing
system was not designed for blind people, it was designed for everyone. And
while I haven't played with Gold Wave much, it appears to have a similar
system. To do precise editing with reasonable convenience, we need to be able
to move both the start and end markers in tiny increments and hear, any time we
wish, the exact effect of those movements while not making any actual change in
the file.
When editing with Mp3 Direct cut, I set the markers to where it sounds as
though they should be set. I then delete the material between the markers and
I then play a section starting a bit before the edit and extending a bit beyond
it. If the edit I made is not what I want, I use control z to undo the edit,
move one or both markers incrementally, then delete and listen again. This
method allows editing so precise that I can remove part of a piece of music and
the deletion is inaudible in terms of being able to hear the edit. for
example, I can remove a chorus and verse from a song and resume play at exactly
the right beat and on exactly the right note so the listener can't hear that an
edit took place. At present, doing this for a blind user in Audacity is
unreasonably cumbersome and unpleasant.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: David Bailes
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 8:30 AM
To: audacity4blind
Subject: [audacity4blind] playing from the end of the selection
Hi,
Gene and Thomas have both recently suggested that it would be good to be able
to have a keystroke to play from the end of the selection, either for a few
seconds, or until the end of the file.
I was wondering whether other list members think that this might be useful,
David.
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