When you say it's easily converted to Daisy, do you also mean BRF? I do not want braille to be the poor forgotten stepchild it often seems to be. Tracy > Lisa brought my attention some of the discussion about PDF happening on > one of the Bookshare.org lists. I just gave a presentation with Adobe > at CSUN, and have posted the presentation below. > > > > The short story is that we should be able to turn tagged PDF into DAISY > very easily. And, that untagged PDF is still a big problem. Some of > the books we're getting from publishers are coming in tagged PDF, so > this is an attractive approach for us. > > > > Jim > > > > > Accessible PDF to DAISY/NIMAS Conversion > > > Jim Fruchterman, Benetech > > > Andres Gonzalez, Mike Wirth, Adobe Systems Inc. > > > March, 2007 > > > > > > * Bookshare and the PDF/XML Need > > > * Adobe's Acrobat Accessibility Work > > > * Technology Demonstration > > > > > > I. Bookshare and the PDF/XML Need > > > Bookshare.org > A library of digital text > > > * 31,000 accessible XML Books > > > * 95% come from volunteer scanning > > > * Repository is growing at a rate of 400-500 books a month > > > * Increasing numbers coming directly from publishers and authors > > > * Better quality than scanned > > > * International permissions > > > * Format conversion challenge > > > > > > DAISY format > Digital Audio-based Information System > > > * The DAISY XML standard is our core format > > > * Books are read on a computer using synthetic speech > > > * NISO/DAISY 3.0 XML specification enables text-based navigation, > such as page numbers, and paragraphs > > > * Think of it as a web page (HTML) plus a couple of extra tags (page > numbers, chapters) > > > * NIMAS (the new K-12 accessible textbook standard in the U.S.) is > based on DAISY > > > > > > > > > > > > Need to convert PDF to XML > Transforming visual to accessible > > > * Most publishers are able to create PDF of their books > > > * Goal is a smooth transformation from accessible PDF to DAISY > > > * Turning PDF books and documents into highly accessible DAISY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PDF Structure and Accessibility > Tagged PDF > > > * Became part of the PDF specs in Acrobat 5 motivated by: > > > * eBooks > > > * Accessibility > > > * Adds document structure and logical order to PDF: > > > * Pages, paragraphs, tables > > > * Reading order > > > * Can be semantically rich > > > * Preserves PDF visual fidelity and portability > > > Creating Tagged PDF > Tagging PDF > > > * MakeAccessible > > > * Automatically adds tags to an existing untagged PDF > > > * TouchUp > > > * Allows authors to add and correct tagging > > > * Accessibility checker > > > * Checks for common tagging problems and provides suggestions how to > fix them > > > * PDFMaker > > > * Creates tagged PDF from other authoring applications. > > > > > > Tagged PDF to DAISY Conversion > PDDOM > > > * XML DOM-like representation of PDF > > > * Provides programmatic access to the tag structure of the PDF file > > > * Cornerstone for Acrobat's > > > * Assistive technologies support > > > * PDF conversion to XML > > > Tagged PDF to DAISY Conversion > Acrobat SaveAsXML relies on PDDOM > > > > > * Scriptable XML parsing engine to produce different types of > XML-based outputs > > > * Had to be extended to produce DAISY > > > * To include page numbers > > > * Layout and formatting information > > > * XML post-processing of SaveAsXML output produces DAISY > > > > > > Demonstration of Current Prototype Technology > Demo of a real eBook from a major publisher > > > * Starting point: A tagged PDF novel > > > * Taliesin by Stephen Lawhead > > > * Using Acrobat, Save As XML > > > * We have modified to save DAISY tags > > > * Converts PDF tags into equivalent XML > > > * Next, need to add key metadata > > > * For DAISY, four main fields > > > * Final, create DAISY ebook > > > * Show it in gh Player > > > Conclusion > > > > * PDF to XML Technology works well on most tagged PDF documents > > > * Needs to be wrapped into a user-friendly package > > > * Web-based service for schools and qualified users > > > * Tool for Acrobat users > > > * Need to complete work and testing > > > * Complex books (textbooks) will still take human intervention to > create fully compliant NIMAS > > > * Existence of this capability should serve to drive increased > creation of accessible PDF > > > Find out More > > > Adobe Accessibility Bookshare.org > > > www.adobe.com/accessibility <http://www.adobe.com/accessibility> > www.bookshare.org <http://www.bookshare.org/> > > > > > > Mike Wirth, Lisa Friendly > > > mwirth@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:mwirth@xxxxxxxxx> 650-644-3420 > > > Lisa.f@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Lisa.f@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Andres Gonzalez Jim Fruchterman > > > andgonza@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:andgonza@xxxxxxxxx> jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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