Hi, I think if there is a quotation before an ellipsis, especially if a
person is talking and you have the impression he/she is gathering thoughts
together before speaking, then I'd leave it alone. If there isn't any
dialog occurring, then I think it's safe to say you can get rid of the
quotation mark in that instance. What do you think, guys? Regards, Kim.
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jill O'Connell
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:32 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I wonder what the braille transcriber's manual would have done in the book
I am proofing where there is a quotation mark before the elipsis; leaving
a space before the first elipsis would really look strange. I apologize
for bringing this up again but I do think for the sake of new scanners and
proofreaders that the manual should clarify.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>Mayrie ReNae
To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
Hi Bob and everyone,
I have just looked at my copy of the braille transcription manual. It
has a copyright date of 1994, so may have changed since. However, it
does state that spaces should appear both before and after an elipsis,
except when the elipsis is followed by a punctuation mark, which should
follow the elipsis without a space.
This formatting was not the case when I learned braille, and I apologize
if my previous understanding of what was correct and up-to-date has
misled anyone.
The formatting of a space, three periods without spaces, and another
space does not seem to make Bookshare's braille translator barf. Thank
goodness!
Again, I'm sorry that my early learning of braille and my passing on of
that obviously outdated knowledge has inconvenienced anyone.
Mayrie
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob W
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:45 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I know we've had this discussion before, but I don't remember the
outcome. It's really up to the Braille users since it effects them more.
Without further direction, I would put spaces on both sides of the elipsis.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>EVAN REESE
To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I think it would look a bit strange if you were to put a space after the
ellipsis but not before it. So if you're not going to put a space in
front, you shouldn't put one after it either.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Lori Castner
To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:12 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Ellipses
I know this topic has come up many times, but I'm confused again.
In the latest issue of the Volunteer Manual it states not to place a
space before the first dot and to remove all spaces between the three
dots, but it does not state what to do after the third dot if the
ellipsis occurs in the middle of a sentence as it often does.
Ellipses are frequently used in mid-sentence in dialog, and I want to
be sure to handle them correctly.
Thanks.
Lori C.
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