[bksvol-discuss] Re: Frustration over missed opportunities for perfection

  • From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:17:35 -0500

All I can say is "amen" Jackie. Well said.

I usually agree with E concerning the dreaded stripper and in no way forgive it's programatic quirks. But this cathartic discussion let's me know that there are a lot of folks out there doing a fine job. We all have different tools to work with, some have k1000, some have open book, some use braille displays while others use speech, and some use their eyes while others use hearing or touch. But, as a group, frankly, we do pretty damned good putting out pretty fine products in our various ways.

So, once again I say "amen Jackie".

Oh and by the way, if I understand things correctly, smart quotes aren't generated by the daisy translator, they are generated by microsoft, for the most part. Maria has told us how to check for their presence and change them into normal quotes (thanks Maria for some very lucid messages).

Therefore, it's just one more thing to look out for and deal with. It's not something to repeatedly kick ourselves for, or blame ourselves for, it's just another drudgery in the drudged-out world for scannors and validators.

Just my way of saying "amen Jackie". Wish I'd said that.

Bob



----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:08 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Frustration over missed opportunities for perfection


U know what, yall--the AA prayer really comes into its own in a
situation like this. From my perspective:
1) I am gonna turn out the absolute best product I can.
2) I am not gonna waste my time trying to 2nd guess the quirks of the
braille translator & the stripper & Daisy, because I cannot always
predict what they're gonna do & I certainly cannot change them.
3) I control what I can, I leave alone what I cannot, & I always pray
for wisdom to know the difference. I will not waste my energy lookin
back over my shoulder or hopping thru life on 1 leg while kickin
myself in the butt w/the other.

My view is that every1's pretty much doin' the best they can.
Bookshare staff has got their hands full--you'd think money would
solve their problems but it doesn't--it just creates different ones.
They're still understaffed & spendin their time tryin' to get more
staff, while the expectations of the Department of Education are
*huge*. The volunteer manual isn't perfect but it's better than what
we had. Of course, it might be better if there were a wiki or some
such, but for now... These things all take time & resources.

So, guys, let's not get our grundies in a bundle & let's just all
understand that u, me, & every1 else is doing the best they can. Life
will never be perfect here--all we can do is our little bit to make it
better. & if, at the end of the day, we can say we've done that, then
it's been a good day indeed. & I truly believe that all of us on this
list can in fact say that. So easy does it, yall--it just is not worth
getin' upset over--life's way too short & time way too precious for
that. I'll crawl back in2 the woodwork now where I belong.

On 5/29/08, Amy Goldring Tajalli <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

E and others,

Please, please, please do not mistake sighted readers/members of Bookshare with people who can read printed versions/editions of books. I can scan and validate books and do many that are ones I have sitting on my shelves but in which the print is too small for me to read or the book is too big for me to
hold or manage turning the pages even if I can hold them. There are all
sorts of reasons why someone cannot use standard printed material.

When I finish writing this letter, I will down-size the print for the
convenience of Bookshare readers and "freelist" receivers. Then Booksharians
who have readers can have them at whatever size is convenient. I cannot
double-check this at a smaller print as I do not have a screen reader that
reads mail as I write it. The screen reader that came with my computer
[Dell] reads menus & sub-menus only and not the contents of the pages. The only reader I have that reads the text is in my Kurzweil so I have to move
anything I want read has to be moved to that, including the long, long
letters from my sister in Cambodia. Other mail I can enlarge if it is not to long. My ability to read even enlarged material is limited by the strain of
reading.

I write this not for sympathy any more than members who identify themselves
as blind do so for sympathy but to help all of you understand why some
members of Bookshare do need and appreciate the service but also want the
books to be as accurate  and true to what the author wrote as possible.
Even the blind can benefit from knowing what they cannot see - that there
are pictures with captions and what both are even though the sighted also
cannot see the  pictures since Bookshare cannot reproduce pictures or
sketches. It does help to know that the author felt s/he felt they would be beneficial to the readers. I wish I had read The Silmarillion before I scanned and validated The Tale of Genji or I would have done a much better and more consistent job with the drawings. Then the copy really would have
been excellent.

I am sorry to have gone one so long but there are sighted people who really
do need Bookshare quite as much as the blind do.

Amy
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