Unfortunately, I no longer have the original document. It's a big book and I have limitted disk space.
Sorry.----- Original Message ----- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:43 PMSubject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
Ok. Whoever validated the Rise and Fall, would you please e-mail me pages, Roman numeral 10, 11, and 12? If you kept the book that you validated, thisshould be an easy task. I'd like to compare the input with the resultingtext. I believe I know what's happening but would like to confirm. If youdon't have the text available, please let me know and I'll contact Claire. I'll write a separate message regarding what happens with Kes and Braille.There have been more than 60 messages on this topic in the last few days and it might just confuse a lot of people. If you have the pages, you can sendthem to me at pratikp1@xxxxxxxxxx There is no reason for the list to get involved until I can check this out. Regards, Pratik -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s. Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:19 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third ReichI've seen it often, where chapters end in the middle of the page, and a newchapter starts on the same page right below the previous chapter's ending, but Ican't recall ever seeing a table of contents ending and chapter 1 beginningon the same page. Judy s. cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Kenneth Cross wrote:Just how many books have you validated where a chapter actually began on the same page where the book's Contents ended; i.e., Contents ends, Chapter 1 is indicated, and part of Chapter 1 begins on that same page? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy"<popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third ReichIn many print books, such as the book I'm validating now, chapters do begin in the middle of the page, though I don't see any logical reason for it. I also don't see a reason why chapters have to begin on an odd-numbered, or right-hand (facing the reader) page, requiring a blank page preceding it. This is as annoying to the sighted reader as it probably is to a blind reader--and a waste of paper. G.Cindy - Chapters will begin on the same page withthe Contents of the book, and most chapters begin in the middle of a page. One would think that there was a better way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich Okay, this is pretty strange. As I said in a previous message I was using k1000v10. Others with other software or other versions of Kurzweil may find different results. I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise and fall of the third Reich" and opened it in Kurzweil. There are random page numbers that do show in the book, page VII for example. However, most are missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if you make allowances for the extra page that bookshare adds in on page two. For example, page 1524 in the book was reported on page 1525. So, to find out what page you are on press shift f1 in the book and mentally add the number 1 to whatever k1000 reports you are on. I checked out header avoidance in the reading settings, making sure that header avoidance was enabled. According to the manual, this should report page headings, but it doesn't. I swear the page numbers were there when the book was submitted to the bookshare administration. I can only conclude that the stripper took them out, or Kurzweil isn't reporting them. I am going to save the book in .txt format, open it with a good old text editor and see if page numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there. But, don't hold your breath. I'll report it if there is any difference. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth Cross To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich Will the daisy tags indicate the actual page number or will those tags reflect the number of pages, including introductory pages? Any way, I will try that right now. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kellie Hartmann To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich If you get the Daisy version, you can see the page numbers in the Daisy tags using the Bookmark list commands. Otherwise, you can use a notetaker or bookport or book courrier if you have one, or, if you need to, you can use Internet Explorer to read the html version included with the Daisy version. Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make bookmarks or save your place, or convert the file back to txt with Explorer and put it back in Kurzweil. Kellie----------------------------------------------------------------------------No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 1/18/2008 7:32 PMWISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is available at http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads____________________________________________________________________________ ________Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! 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