[bksvol-discuss] Re: Kindle Only Books
- From: Cindy Ray <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:53:25 -0500
Well, I hate when that happens. <Giggle>
On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Julia wrote:
>
> Hi Cindy.
> Yes, after I dashed off my email I saw his post.
> Julia
>
> On 16/08/2011 3:12 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>> I think Evan posted the information on one.
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Julia wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>> There is one Kindle only book, well for us anyways. The print copy is
>>> only available in the U.K. It's called A Matter of Pride by Linda Carlino.
>>> Julia
>>>
>>> On 16/08/2011 1:43 PM, Roger Loran Bailey wrote:
>>>> As a matter of fact, I did misunderstand your point until I reread your
>>>> message right after I sent my reply. Since I do have Bookshare and other
>>>> sources of books I have not really payed much attention to Kindle books.
>>>> Are there really any Kindle only books? Based on what I have seen without
>>>> making a point to pay attention it appears that the Kindle books I have
>>>> seen on Amazon and mentioned elsewhere are published in print first and
>>>> then published as Kindle books. An exception might be print on demand
>>>> books. In that case only a very few copies are printed up as they are
>>>> ordered, but they still can be ordered in print versions and undoubtedly
>>>> used copies show up in used bookstores. There are enough people around who
>>>> prefer print copies that I would expect that publishing print on demand
>>>> books would continue for the indefinite future. But then, once everyone
>>>> comes to prefer ebooks I suppose print books would become obsolete. I
>>>> would not expect that to happen for quite a few
> y
>> ears though. If it ever does happen then I suppose Bookshare will have to
>> somehow adapt. Anyway, though, I still ask if there are any Kindle only
>> books right now. If there are I would expect that they are few in number for
>> right now.
>>>>
>>>> _ _ _
>>>>
>>>> "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think
>>>> and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because
>>>> of, the lack of evidence." - Richard Dawkins
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/rogerbailey81
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Militant:
>>>> http://www.themilitant.com
>>>> Pathfinder Press:
>>>> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
>>>> Granma International:
>>>> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese"<mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:28 PM
>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kindle Only Books
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That's good to know. Bookshare must have an agreement with the publisher
>>>>> of that book. However, my point was that, unless Bookshare has an
>>>>> agreement with the publisher of a Kindle only book, then there's no way
>>>>> for the book to be scanned for the collection. Which means that you could
>>>>> have a growing number of books from publishers who do not donate to
>>>>> Bookshare, with no way of getting them into the collection. Up until now,
>>>>> the way things worked was that if you get ahold of a book, any book, and
>>>>> it wasn't already in the collection, except for dramatic works, then you
>>>>> could scan it and get it into the collection regardless of whether or not
>>>>> Bookshare had a relationship with the publisher. That may no longer be
>>>>> the case. For a Kindle only book, unless I'm missing something, the only
>>>>> way for it to get into the collection is for Bookshare to get it from the
>>>>> publisher.
>>>>> Evan
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Loran
>>>>> Bailey"<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> To:<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:02 PM
>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kindle Only Books
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep track of the books I am reading at Good Reads. I want to select
>>>>>> the exact edition of the book I am reading, so I usually look it up on
>>>>>> Good Reads by ISBN. If it does not have an ISBN I look it up by title
>>>>>> and author and browse the results until I find the one that most closely
>>>>>> matches what I am reading. One book I downloaded from Bookshare was a
>>>>>> publisher quality copy of Kahawa by Donald E. Westlake. When I entered
>>>>>> the ISBN into Good Reads' search engine I got no results. I then started
>>>>>> searching by title and author. When I browsed the results I found one
>>>>>> with a matching ISBN after all. When I looked at the detail page for the
>>>>>> book I was surprised to find out that it was labeled as a Kindle
>>>>>> edition. That tells me that there are already Kindle editions in the
>>>>>> Bookshare collection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _ _ _
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think
>>>>>> and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because
>>>>>> of, the lack of evidence." - Richard Dawkins
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/rogerbailey81
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Militant:
>>>>>> http://www.themilitant.com
>>>>>> Pathfinder Press:
>>>>>> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
>>>>>> Granma International:
>>>>>> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese"<mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To:<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:33 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Kindle Only Books
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just encountered my first Kindle only book yesterday. I'm wondering if
>>>>>> others here have seen any of these. With electronic books now outselling
>>>>>> hardcovers, it seems that this may become a growing trend. Why spend all
>>>>>> that money on paper, ink and shipping when you can just send out
>>>>>> electronic bits instead for a lot less money, and more quikly besides?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why am I posting this here? Because, unless Bookshare has agreements
>>>>>> with publishers, then there's no way for these Kindle only books to get
>>>>>> on Bookshare. So we could be in a situation where an increasing number
>>>>>> of books will be published in a way that will make it impossible for
>>>>>> them to be added to Bookshare. The one I saw said that TTS was enabled,
>>>>>> but that is often not the case with Kindle books in general. So what
>>>>>> happens with a Kindle only book with TTS disabled and there's no print
>>>>>> version to scan for Bookshare?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I presume that Bookshare knows about these books, so perhaps I'm
>>>>>> worrying over nothing. I hope so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>
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