[bksvol-discuss] Re: M dash, how to make it?

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 21:54:38 -0700 (PDT)

Is Lissi right in what she says about two dashes
instead of an em dash being easier to read in braile?
What about with Daisy? What should I be doing, em dash
or double dash?

Cindy

--- Estelnalissi <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dear Jake,
> 
> Your directions worked perfectly! I'm levitating! We
> all know I'm not the 
> fastest barge on the canal when it comes to
> computers, but your instructions 
> put those m dashes exactly where I needed them.
> 
> The M dash will be especially easy to remember
> because it's insert 4 as you 
> said for jaws, and then tapping e 4 times to reach m
> dash and enter not even 
> having to go to OK!
> 
> Also exciting is the fact I saw a slew of items
> listed in the insert 4 
> dialogue box which may turn out to be useful!!
> 
> The book I'm working on is an Irish memoir. Instead
> of using quotes or 
> apostrophes, there's a dash or m dash before all
> quotes and no mark to show 
> the end of the quote. It's plain in print because
> quotes are inserted 
> farther than the narrative, but I think braille
> readers will quickly catch 
> the pattern.
> 
> While blissfully making my corrections with the new
> command, I noticed that 
> the scanner read these unique indications of quotes
> as dash about half of 
> the time and M dash the other half with some minus
> signs thrown in for 
> variety. The mixture was random so I made a command
> decision to use the 
> simpler dash to indicate quotes. I'm on page 27 now
> and all quotes are 
> uniformly indicated with a single dash, easier for
> me and the reader.
> 
> By the way, when this book is approved, I'm going to
> mention that while 
> anyone interested in quirky humor, Irish culture and
> recalling life from 
> 1959 through 1960 something will like this book, but
> the POV, and the 
> father, a kind of hero to the author will really
> appeal to the gritty guys 
> among the members. I'm entranced, but regularly
> amused in spite of myself 
> and grossed out, too.
> 
> Always with love,
> 
> Lissi
> 
> Thanks for helping me to enjoy another break
> through!
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:52 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dash, how to make
> it?
> 
> 
> > Hi Lissi,
> >    There are two easy ways to insert an em-dash
> >
> > If you're using Microsoft Word, you can press
> CTRL+ALT+the minus sign on 
> > the numpad.
> >
> > If you're using JAWS, you can press INSERT+4 (the
> 4 on the regular 
> > keyboard) and you'll get a list of symbols. Press
> the letter e a few times 
> > and you'll find em dash, then press enter.
> >
> > That's all there is to it.
> >
> > Jake
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:16 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] M dash, how to make it?
> >
> >
> >> Dear Volunteer Friends,
> >>
> >> There was a discussion here about making that
> long dash called m dash by 
> >> Jaws using microsoft word while validating an RTF
> file. How to make it 
> >> with other programs might have been mentioned,
> too.
> >>
> >> What I mostly remember is that it was suggested
> that just using 2 dashes 
> >> comes out better for the braille reader in
> Bookshare's BRF file of a 
> >> book. So, I decided that when I had a choice, I'd
> use 2 dashes.
> >>
> >> However, the book I'm validating is already
> packed with m dashes, so if I 
> >> fix one, I thought it should match them.
> >>
> >> How do I make an m dash? Occasionally jaws calls
> an m dash a minus, and I 
> >> want to replace the minus signs with m dashes. If
> anyone can point me to 
> >> the answer or remind me how to do this, I'd
> appreciate it and save the 
> >> information in my Bookshare Tips file.
> >>
> >> While I wait to hear about this, I'll mark the
> spot and go on. I'm only 
> >> on page 12, but this book really motivates me to
> make good progress.
> >>
> >> Hope all of your current endeavors are going
> swimmingly. - Smile
> >>
> >> Always with love,
> >>
> >> Lissi
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