Great point. Gary, and very nicely said. I truly believe that no book should be accepted on bookshare until someone has read it through completely. So, the scanner would have to use the comment field to tell validators what was necessary to make the book acceptable, and validators would have to read the book to check it if the comment from the scanner was either missing, or said they did not read the book. That is the only way to prevent all errors. Checking the book in other ways is likely to find the problems, but there is no garantee. I will also say that I have been guilty of a somewhat more lax job of validating in the past, so I can understand it's cause, but I know it's a problem now, and anything issuing from my computer will be read and edited. I also think, like Chris, that the quality rating should be checked by the bookshare system when submitted as well as when it is re-uploaded after validation. The current system relies completely on the judgement of the submitter, and there judgement can't always be trusted. :-) It is better just to allow an override of the system's quality choice when appropriate. Sarah Van Oosterwijck curious entity at earthlink dot net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:10 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: My nickel's worth--quality control > I agree. As a kid I tried my hand at dish washing and wanted to > be fast at it. My mother was encouraged by my enthusiasm but put > back things which still had grease on the sides or little specs > which were perfectly feelable. She told me she was glad I was > helping to wash but the outcome had to be that the dish was > clean. > > Now I'm not making a case for perfect scans, but nothing is more > frustrating than to get into the middle of a book and then > realize that suddenly I am hearing two columns of the book read > side by side. These books have never been read by anyone either > the scanner or the validator or they wouldn't appear like this. > Someone, be it the scanner or validator, it seems to me, has to > take responsibility for a read through. If it is the scanner, > then the validators job is easier. If it is not the scanner, then > the validator needs to be warned that he/she needs to read cover > to cover. > > Just my opinion, and presented respectfully I hope. >