[bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem

  • From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:38:57 -0500

Sure there's lower-case roman numerals. They are the ones not in caps.

I think many books begin their books with lower-case roman numerals. But, don't 
know for sure.

Besides, it's just a suggestion, do it, don't do it, do some of it. It's your 
call.

Bob

"We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of us will 
live on in the future we make,"
Senator Edward M. Kennedy 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jill O'Connell 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:46 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem


  Mayrie, I'm curious to know what census came up with the idea of lower case 
Roman numerals; is there even such a thing? 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mayrie ReNae 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 5:05 AM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem


    Hi Lori,

        It isn't exact, but I have experienced what you are talking about.  I 
just number backward from roman numeral ix and if there are pages before roman 
numeral i, well, then, I just leave them unnumbered.

        Often there are pages before what the publisher seemed to consider the 
first page of the book containing raves and things like that that they seem not 
to consider pages.

        Why do we number the preliminary pages?  Because it makes sense, I 
guess.  And I assume that if the publisher actually numbered a page ix, then it 
seems sensible that said publisher considered, or even did (but they didn't 
scan) number the pages before that page with the preceding roman numerals.

        This is not a step required by bookshare.  Remember that bookshare only 
requires that a book have all of its pages, an accurate copyright page and 
title page, and 90% of page breaks, with the 90% of page numbers being in the 
works to be required.  The rest of what we have written about in our 
documentation for proofreading and scanning are the things that a concensus of 
quite a few people consider the best way to create the most readable books 
possible.  Since bookshare only requires the things I've mentioned above, as 
Bob says, I guess the rest are just suggestions.  

        I do want to say that a lot of experience and conversation did go into 
creating the suggestions that we created. And we didn't decide anything just 
because we felt like making more work for ourselves or for other people.

        I'm sorry everything isn't exact and set in stone. Or anywhere near 
perfect in every single situation.  

    Mayrie





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    From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
    Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:11 AM
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Puzzling Problem


    Hi, Everyone,

    I have a very minor puzzling situation in a book I'm proofreading.

    In one of the newer documents on what to do as a proofreader, it states 
that we are to number preliminary pages with lower case Roman numerals 
beginning with i.

    However, in this book I am proofing, the acknowledgments begin on IX (Roman 
numeral nine), but there are ten actual pages before the acknowledgments begin. 
 One is a blank page which I can remove, but even so there will still be nine 
preliminary pages before the first page with a page number, Roman numeral nine. 
 Do I begin my lower case numerals with zero--is there a Roman numeral for zero?

    And why are we numbering these unnumbered preliminary pages anyway?

    Bob, I'm waiting for a humorous answer from you, but also seriously what do 
I do when the number of unnumbered pages is greater than the lower case 
numerals?

    Lori C.



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