They would be the wiser because the Table of Contents would give me away; it says emphatically Acknowledgments IX I will not number the preliminary pages and will let the acknowledgments speak for themselves. Thanks. I had never thought about the lack of zero in Roman numerals; that would be a definite flaw in the system. Lori C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:50 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Puzzling Problem Hi Lori. Too early for humor--too early for opening one's eyes. Actually, there is no roman numeral for zero. That was one of the failings of the roman numeral system. The Arabs invented the zero which made their accounting systems much superior to the European system. Was it Marco Polo who brought the zero to the western world? Now to your question concerning preliminary pages. I think that suggestion is just that. If it were me I would leave them alone. Of course, you could renumber the whole lot and no one would be the wiser <lol>. Just my thoughts. Bob "We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all of us will live on in the future we make," Senator Edward M. Kennedy ----- Original Message ----- From: Lori Castner To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:10 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Puzzling Problem Hi, Everyone, I have a very minor puzzling situation in a book I'm proofreading. In one of the newer documents on what to do as a proofreader, it states that we are to number preliminary pages with lower case Roman numerals beginning with i. However, in this book I am proofing, the acknowledgments begin on IX (Roman numeral nine), but there are ten actual pages before the acknowledgments begin. One is a blank page which I can remove, but even so there will still be nine preliminary pages before the first page with a page number, Roman numeral nine. Do I begin my lower case numerals with zero--is there a Roman numeral for zero? And why are we numbering these unnumbered preliminary pages anyway? Bob, I'm waiting for a humorous answer from you, but also seriously what do I do when the number of unnumbered pages is greater than the lower case numerals? Lori C.