[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for John Boyer
- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 06:37:49 -0500
G. Cindy,
I'm not really acquaiqed with the methods of correcting and validting
books that people are using. My experience is with using word
processors. The Bookshare staff should give guidelines on how to use
"notetakers", etc. A manual in the form of a FAQ sounds like a good
idea.
Incidentally, I dislike the term "notetaker", because it is misleading.
The term should be "Braille PDA".
John
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:23:55AM -0700, Grandma Cindy wrote:
> John,
>
> What does that mean? What style sheet, or will we be given one? We scan and
> validate according to the print book. Do you mean that we can leave blank
> lines between sections without indicating them by asterisks? And if this is
> the case, when should be start? How can we not format manually?
>
> G.Cindy
>
>
> --- On Mon, 5/19/08, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: John J. Boyer <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Another Question for Braille Readers
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Monday, May 19, 2008, 11:26 PM
> > I'm doing some development work for Benetech, and I know
> > that they are
> > considering replacing the Bookshare braille translator. The
> > new
> > translator will put in blank lines where there required by
> > braille
> > codes. It will, however, depend on word processors being
> > used
> > correctly, that is, with their style sheets, rather than
> > trying to
> > format things manually.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:56:00PM -0400, Estelnalissi
> > wrote:
> > > Dear John,
> > >
> > > Bookshare tools handle braille translation differently
> > so we do all we can
> > > to insure the print formatting is correctly
> > represented in braille. Also,
> > > Bookshare's braille translation program is many
> > years out of date and
> > > doesn't preserve all of the formatting nuances and
> > punctuation marks more
> > > up-to-date programs can handle.
> > >
> > > Always with love,
> > >
> > > Lissi
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John J. Boyer"
> > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:40 PM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Another Question for
> > Braille Readers
> > >
> > >
> > > >I used to run a braille transcribing operation. My
> > instructions to my
> > > >workers were to produce a good word-processing
> > file. Inserting blank
> > > >lines and Indentation is the business of the
> > braille transcription
> > > >software. If you try to do that on your own you
> > are likely to produce
> > > >undesirable effects in the braille output. So use
> > your word poocessor's
> > > >stylesheet for headings, etc.
> > > >
> > > >John
> > > >
> > > >On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 01:08:00PM -0700, Darrell
> > Shandrow wrote:
> > > >>Hi Allison,
> > > >>
> > > >>I like blank lines before and after headings,
> > even with a Braille
> > > >>display,
> > > >>as that's really the only way to know a
> > heading exists. Though I like
> > > >>blank
> > > >>lines before and after bulleted and numbered
> > lists, I do not like them
> > > >>between items; just list the items one per
> > line. :-)
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks.
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Allison Hilliker"
> > <hillikera@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:50 PM
> > > >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Another Question for
> > Braille Readers
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Hi Everyone,
> > > >>
> > > >>I do read Braille, but I don't always know
> > if my own opinion reflects
> > > >>that
> > > >>of the majority, so once in a while I ask
> > questions here.
> > > >>
> > > >>I'm validating a book that has a lot of
> > headings and almost no blank
> > > >>lines
> > > >>separating them. I know that when I'm
> > rereading hardcopy Braille, it's
> > > >>great
> > > >>to have the headings separated with blank
> > lines, but the experience isn't
> > > >>the same with a Braille display. Do those of
> > you reading with displays
> > > >>still like to have the headings separated by
> > blank lines? I've been
> > > >>doing
> > > >>that, but if it doesn't make a big
> > difference then I won't. Also, what
> > > >>about numbered lists, do you like a blank line
> > after each numbered item?
> > > >>How about bulleted lists? I've been
> > changing the bullets into stars upon
> > > >>the suggestion of many of you on this list,
> > but I hadn't asked about the
> > > >>blank lines before.
> > > >>
> > > >>All feedback is welcome. It won't lead to
> > any official Bookshare policy,
> > > >>this is just for my own reference.
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >>Allison
> > > >>
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> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >John J. boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
> > > >JJB Software, Inc.
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> > > >Madison, WI USA
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