[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for John Boyer
- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 22:04:37 -0500
This is a matter for the Bookshare staff to deal with. I only know what
worked in my own transcribing operation.
John
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 06:26:57PM -0700, Grandma Cindy wrote:
> John,
>
> I use a word processor--Microsoft Word for the Mac--But I don't understand
> what you mean by a style sheet. The only time I've ever used style sheets was
> in college when writing term papers. I don't write articles for publications
> now; I just proofread books for bookshare and try to make them as close to
> print books as possible, given the limitations of bookshare. So please, to
> what style sheets are you referring?
>
> > G. Cindy,
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:23:55AM -0700, Grandma Cindy
> > wrote:
> > > John,
> > >
> > > What does that mean? What style sheet, or will we be
> > given one? We scan and validate according to the print
> > book. Do you mean that we can leave blank lines between
> > sections without indicating them by asterisks? And if this
> > is the case, when should be start? How can we not format
> > manually?
> > >
> > > G.Cindy
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 5/19/08, John J. Boyer
> > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: John J. Boyer
> > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Another Question
> > for Braille Readers
> > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Date: Monday, May 19, 2008, 11:26 PM
> > > > I'm doing some development work for Benetech,
> > and I know
> > > > that they are
> > > > considering replacing the Bookshare braille
> > translator. The
> > > > new
> > > > translator will put in blank lines where there
> > required by
> > > > braille
> > > > codes. It will, however, depend on word
> > processors being
> > > > used
> > > > correctly, that is, with their style sheets,
> > rather than
> > > > trying to
> > > > format things manually.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:56:00PM -0400,
> > Estelnalissi
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Dear John,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bookshare tools handle braille translation
> > differently
> > > > so we do all we can
> > > > > to insure the print formatting is correctly
> > > > represented in braille. Also,
> > > > > Bookshare's braille translation program
> > is many
> > > > years out of date and
> > > > > doesn't preserve all of the formatting
> > nuances and
> > > > punctuation marks more
> > > > > up-to-date programs can handle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Always with love,
> > > > >
> > > > > Lissi
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "John J. Boyer"
> > > > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:40 PM
> > > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Another
> > Question for
> > > > Braille Readers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >I used to run a braille transcribing
> > operation. My
> > > > instructions to my
> > > > > >workers were to produce a good
> > word-processing
> > > > file. Inserting blank
> > > > > >lines and Indentation is the business of
> > the
> > > > braille transcription
> > > > > >software. If you try to do that on your
> > own you
> > > > are likely to produce
> > > > > >undesirable effects in the braille
> > output. So use
> > > > your word poocessor's
> > > > > >stylesheet for headings, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >John
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 01:08:00PM
> > -0700, Darrell
> > > > Shandrow wrote:
> > > > > >>Hi Allison,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>I like blank lines before and after
> > headings,
> > > > even with a Braille
> > > > > >>display,
> > > > > >>as that's really the only way to
> > know a
> > > > heading exists. Though I like
> > > > > >>blank
> > > > > >>lines before and after bulleted and
> > numbered
> > > > lists, I do not like them
> > > > > >>between items; just list the items
> > one per
> > > > line. :-)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Thanks.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>From: "Allison Hilliker"
> > > > <hillikera@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>To:
> > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >>Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:50 PM
> > > > > >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Another
> > Question for
> > > > Braille Readers
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Hi Everyone,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>I do read Braille, but I don't
> > always know
> > > > if my own opinion reflects
> > > > > >>that
> > > > > >>of the majority, so once in a while
> > I ask
> > > > questions here.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>I'm validating a book that has a
> > lot of
> > > > headings and almost no blank
> > > > > >>lines
> > > > > >>separating them. I know that when
> > I'm
> > > > rereading hardcopy Braille, it's
> > > > > >>great
> > > > > >>to have the headings separated with
> > blank
> > > > lines, but the experience isn't
> > > > > >>the same with a Braille display. Do
> > those of
> > > > you reading with displays
> > > > > >>still like to have the headings
> > separated by
> > > > blank lines? I've been
> > > > > >>doing
> > > > > >>that, but if it doesn't make a
> > big
> > > > difference then I won't. Also, what
> > > > > >>about numbered lists, do you like a
> > blank line
> > > > after each numbered item?
> > > > > >>How about bulleted lists? I've
> > been
> > > > changing the bullets into stars upon
> > > > > >>the suggestion of many of you on
> > this list,
> > > > but I hadn't asked about the
> > > > > >>blank lines before.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>All feedback is welcome. It
> > won't lead to
> > > > any official Bookshare policy,
> > > > > >>this is just for my own reference.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Thanks,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Allison
> > > > > >>
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> > > > > >John J. boyer; President, Chief Software
> > Developer
> > > > > >JJB Software, Inc.
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