[bksvol-discuss] Re: S O S from Amy

  • From: "Amy Goldring Tajalli" <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:23:27 -0400

Evan solved the edit problem by showing me how to change  from "read only" to 
"edit mode" in  "edit" - as it only showed "read only" who would have thought 
of just clicking on it would change it to edit mode.  Evan used another term 
for the edit file but I was able to find it anyway so thanks to Evan I won't be 
losing all my work again.


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Estelnalissi 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 2:43 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] S O S from Amy 


  Dear Volunteer Friends,

  Amy wrote to me off list asking if I would forward her request for help. It 
follows my signature. I won't even attempt to advise her because I'm mostly 
computer illiterate. Your conversations about Open Book and Kurzweil sound so 
ominous. The glitches you experience would discourage me. If I ever hope to 
scan, I'll have to tackle learning them someday,but meanwhile validating keeps 
me more than busy. As long as it works, I'll hang on to Microsoft Word, for 
dear life. The only new skill I'm motivated to learn is editing an RTF file in 
braille on the Braille Note for special projects where my ears, searches and 
spell checks aren't enough. 

  Amy has struggled trying to prepare the mega project, Genji. I hope someone 
here can help her decide how to continue or help her find a Bookshare project 
that will be a doable match for the programs she has. 

  Thanks in advance on Amy's behalf.

  Always with love,

  Lissi

  ***

  Help.  I am  temporarily out of the
  bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  because I had hoped to work on Genji and finish it before I ran out of 
openbook and I had been doing well until  today when I saw that most of the 
corrections
  from the last two days, even ones that had been there when I last worked on 
the file yesterday, were not there.   I was not surprised when I saw that the
  paragraph indentations were gone, even in the Oprenbook file as I had it 
before but other corrections as well. 2pages which had been missing and which
  I replaced were gone again.  In my quest for an answer I found in the 
"properties" description that my "rtf" file had become a "read only" file and 
although
  I had been and still am working on it in Openbook it was listed as a 
"WordPad" file.  I had had a copy in WordPad but it was not the one I was 
working
  on in Openbook. Now all of them are listed in Openbook but as read only which 
does me no good.
  To make a long story short,  As far as I can tell the corrections from before 
September are still  there although I am half afraid to look but the ones
  from The 1st and 2nd are not.  How can I fix this? Most of the pages of the 
Story itself are good if not perfect - most are exact but I have only validated
  the first 50 or so pp of the tale itself .  The intro, which is vital to the 
understanding of the tale,  did have a lot of corrections and I will double
  check them.  If  this is going to continue I either need to know how to 
covert this back to a file that is not "read only" but still in openbook or some
  other program (WordPerfect or WordPad and I need to learn them better) or 
have someone else validate the book as you once suggested.  I still want to read
  it so it would make sense for me to validate it but . . . .
  I do not know who is whom in the hierchary of Bookshare but somebody among 
those of you who decide what is acceptable or not and those who know these 
programs
  better than I do is better able to tell me what to do and decide what I 
should be doing as a bookshare volunteer with my poor skills.  Could you please
  pass this along to  whomever it was you wrote to (I cannot find the note) 
suggesting just this  point and find out from him/her what you all figure out.
   Meanwhile I wll try to find someway, when I leave/close out the program 
tonight to save the corrections but I have not yet figured it out.
  I am available at 305-326-1354 or at my home address :
  agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  There is one advantage to my working on Genji in that I do know it well 
enough now to fix a few of the regular errors  ( like tj for g or ,- for ; 
without
  having to check them all the time with the book. Should it be decided that 
someone else could better validate it I can send the loose pages that comprise
  the original source of the scanning to the person in question.  If that 
someone has K1000 the original  scan which has the page #s  that match the book
  (blanks and "preliminary pages"  included) will be on that scan as I did keep 
a copy of the original .kes file.
  Looking forward to hearing from you or whomever.
  Sincerly,
  Amy
  omst

  "My story is finally out there in the ether, a self-sufficient organism 
beyond my control, changing shape in every new mind that absorbs it."
  From The Night Listener, a novel by
  Armistead Maupin

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Evan Reese 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 1:12 AM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: blank pages


    You are getting extra pages, while I almost lost all of mine this morning.  
I saved an rtf copy of the kes file I just finished rank spelling on.  I closed 
the rtf file, and was apparently back in the kes version, but I found that when 
I wanted to check something in the book, it said that the maximum page number 
was five.  It didn't lie, because I couldn't go past page five.  The original 
book has 556 pages.  I decided to close the file and see what Windows 
Properties would say, and when it asked me if I wanted to save the changes to 
the file, I said no.  When I opened the file in K1000 again, the file was back 
to its original size.  If I had just saved the file without thinking, I would 
have lost nearly all the kes version of the book.

    I wonder if anyone has ever had that happen.  A little scary.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Kellie Hartmann 
      To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:18 PM
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: blank pages


      Hi Jill,
      This is a known Kurzweil bug, though I think they've fixed it so it 
doesn't happen too often anymore. What I would do is go to the top of the bunch 
of blank pages and press control-m. This makes a marker for Kurzweil which will 
allow you to select all these blank pages at once and get rid of them. After 
you make the marker with control-m, find the place where the text starts up 
again. When you get there, just press control-x at the top of the page where 
the text starts back up. This will cut out all those unwanted blank pages at 
once. After that you can save the file and hopefully they won't come back.
      Hth,
      Kellie

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