Shelly, My recommendation for textboxes would be to use your idea of "begin textbox" and "close texbox" in brackets before and end of the box in question. We'll need to do this until the full DAISY 3.0 standard goes into effect, which contains provision for marking up structure such as boxes. As far as tables go--the OCR programs do not handle tables well, unless you're dealing with off-the-shelf version of FR7 or Omnipage 14. You can do as much correction as possible with the context you have available. The information contained in the tables is important; but there are going to be certain things that you may not be able to do. HTH. Pratik Pratik Patel Managing Director CUNYAssistive Technology Services The City University of New York ppatel@xxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shelley L. Rhodes Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 6:30 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Bookshare.org Scans Webpage Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Tables in books or boxes I would like some clarification as a scanner, if I might. Regarding tables in books and boxes or captions, and the like. I am editing a book I scanned, which has boxes of text but they box may be continued on the next page. Would it be appropriate to say. "Box begins" and Box Ends, or just Box, Box, when labeling this text to keep it separate. I do this for captions, labeling them "Caption:" but... just curious. I don't think it is adding anything that was there to begin with but just describing nonvisually what is quite self evident to the sighted reader of said book. Second question. I started a book about Trees and how to plant, which kinds and the like. It has a lot of tables and the like. I was wondering how important it is to have the tables perfect? I am figuring that if I downloaded the book I would use other resources like my Extension office to find out the information I need on the tables don't provide, but this is probably my stubborn streak showing up. Just curious how much time I should attempt to put into those tables, rather than in the book. I can imagine this is not the only gardening book like this, and I want to attack more art and garden books in the next batch from the library. What is all your thoughts on this idea. I know that NLLS puts boxes together even though they are on different sides of the page. Or will mention the fact that the next bit is a box of text. Just wondering your thoughts. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. -- Vance Havner