[bksvol-discuss] Re: another question about tbook I'm proofing

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
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  • Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 19:35:04 -0400

Well, let me say that The first thing I thought of was front covers. Actually, I have managed to scan any number of back covers on paperback books and the back of dust jackets. They seem to be a bit more difficult than the text and sometimes I have to give up, but there are plenty that I did not have to give up on. But if we are talking about front covers Not only have I had no luck with them, but it seems pointless to try if you know what kind of things are on them. When I was sighted I saw plenty of them. Mostly they contain artwork or pictures and the title in very large and often distorted font. Oftentimes the title does not quite match the title as on the title page. I am talking about covers of paperback books and the front of dust jackets. On hardcover books the cover is technically what is underneath the dust jacket. Most often that is just blank with no artwork nor text of any kind. Frankly, I kind of wonder why I have even bothered to try to scan front covers at all, but I have tried and it was never successful.


On 6/30/2016 5:40 PM, Susan Lumpkin wrote:


Hi Roger,

Larry has luck scanning them sometimes. I think it just depends on which program he is using. Maybe he’ll add something to this.

Susan

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I don't think we scan covers. At least I have never had any luck with trying to do so.

On 6/30/2016 12:43 AM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote:

     Thanks, Judy. Does that include the cover? I'll change my ways
    instantly and  copy the info to my notes

     CINDY

    On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Judy s.
    <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
    wrote:

        Hi Cindy, you need to go by what Bookshare calls the title
        page, not by what Wikipedia says. For Bookshare, the title
        page is the page that has the title, the author and the publisher.

        On that page, and on that page only according to the Bookshare
        proofreading guidelines, the title should be 20 points and
        bold. Everywhere else the title appears it is in the same text
        format as the rest of the book -- 12 points, without bolding.

        Hope that helps!

        Judy s.
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        On 6/29/2016 11:18 PM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote:

            I, then, have been doing this wrong for lo these many
            years. I didn't realize that the title page had not only
            the title but the other info, like the publisher, etc., so
            I googled and   to see what exactly is  teh title page of
            a  book )or thesis,etc. Wikipedia says : "The *title page*
            of a book <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book>, thesis
            <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesis> or other written
            work is the page at or near the front which displays its
            title
            <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_%28publishing%29>.
            This page contains *only*   (emphasis here is mine)the
            title in a fashion similar to the rest of the text within
            the book.

             I thought that was the title  page but did not think it
            should have the title in " in a fashion similar to the
            rest of  the book. Does that necessarily mean in 12 point?
            Or can it mean in the same font, e.g. Times Roman,  not
            the same size. I've been proofing for years. I've been
            putting the title in 20 point Bold both  when it's on the
            cover and the title page;  When the title reappears  on
            the  same page as the  publisher info I  put  it in12
            point not bold  along with  the rest of  the  page..
            Should I now change my ways? I'  may be an old dog but I'm
            not tooold to learn new tricks smile

             Cindy

            On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Sandra Ryan
            <sjryan2@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sjryan2@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                Hi Aidee,

                Yes, you should put the title standing by itself on
                the first page in 12-point. As you clearly understand,
                the title page, where it should appear in 20-point
                bold, is the page with the title, author, and
                publisher on it. The only place the title should
                appear in this larger bold font is on the title page.

                Sandi



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                I'm proofing

                Hello All:

                This is Aidee, one of the proofreaders. I have another
                (hopefully) tiny question. In the book I'm working on,
                the very first page of the book is just the title of
                the book, in 20 point and bolded. But a few pages
                further on, the title of the book appears again. It
                looks like this.

                 LEIGH BARDUGO
                SIX OF CROWS
                HENRY HOLT AND COMPANY
                NEW YORK


                In the file I have, it appears as though the title is
                in 20 point and bolded.

                My question is this: Should I make the title of the
                book on the very first page 12 point, and leave the
                title of the book that appears further on at 20 points
                and bolded, or vice versa. This is the first time I've
                seen something like this in a book I've proofed
                (although I've only done a few). I looked through the
                list for a similar question, and I saw that a similar
                case was directed to have the title on the first page
                be 12 points, because it appeared by itself without
                the author's name.

                I'd really appreciate any help, and I apologize for
                any and all inconvenience.



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