[bksvol-discuss] Re: levels of daisy navigation in scanned books? And a variety of questions

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:45:49 -0400

I don't know just how large you mean, but not too long ago I had some success with a book that would not quite fit on the scanner when it was open. I essentially scanned one page at a time, but I could not get just one page on the scanner at a time without getting part of the other page on it too. I just went ahead and scanned it in two page mode and then right after each scan I deleted the page that only scanned partially and then scanned it and deleted the other one.



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----- Original Message ----- From: <ohio1803@xxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:46 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: levels of daisy navigation in scanned books? And a variety of questions


Thanks, Lori and Mayrie for your replies.
I shall remove the brackets around the page numbers as you suggest., and Lori, maybe I shall try to just use the BRF format in my old Book Port. I enjoy the multi-level Daisy navigation, though. I kind of have gotten used to it, maybe could even say spoiled. But bookmarks work, too.

And thanks for your positive comment on my scans.
If I can stay focused and have the time I have quite a few books that I think others may enjoy. There sure have been an amazing amount of great books to read over the past several years. My, oh my!

I still wish I could figure out a way to scan very large books, as I have a couple that I think would be great to read. Only way I can figure is to have sighted help and to obscure a portion of the page each scan. But that takes a lot of time. Maybe someday. Maybe someone knows a way I have not thought of?

Thanks.
Rik

From: Lori Castner
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:05 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: levels of daisy navigation in scanned books? And a variety of questions

Hi, Rick,

I have always enjoyed proofreading your books, not only because of their interesting topics, but also because the submissions are so clean and virtually error-free.

I can't answer your question about Bookshare daisy books and their playing on the old Bookport except to say that I have the same problem. When I move between books on the Bookport, those in daisy format do not have titles which can be read by the Bookport, so navigation between books is quite tricky. That problem developed about six months ago, I think, so I simply use the .brf files.

Lori C.

----- Original Message ----- From: ohio1803@xxxxx
 To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: levels of daisy navigation in scanned books? And a variety of questions

 This was a big help, Scott. Thank you.
So as a submitter, if I do these things, is that pretty useful for proofreaders?

 It was good to see the additional information on that Wiki page, too.
 Some great attempts to get all our folks on the same page, so to speak!

Footnotes information was useful. the book I am doing now has quite a number of them in certain sections of the book.

And I noticed about pages of photographs the preferred text is to put the word image in brackets. I had used the text photo caption. Hope that is okay.

Here are a few bonus questions if anyone can help to educate and inform me:

This one book I am now doing has its page numbers in brackets. Any opinion on that? Should I leave them in brackets or remove them?

Thanks. My objective has always been to submit a book as ready for the collection as possible.

I do hope we may have more books that I download that will have the multiple level of navigation.

While I ask questions, I wonder if anyone knows, why do the books now appear differently in the old Book Port? I notice that quite a number of them do play okay. But when I go to the folder where they are, sometimes they are absolutely silent and thus have no title for the Book Port to read. When I play them they work, however.

Also in the same vein, these books no longer have their titles to appear in the Book Port Transfer program. Rather they only appear as a number. Which is fine, except that no way can I do any housecleaning using that software and have to delete titles within the Book Port itself and not with the software.

 Thanks.
 Rik James
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 From: Scott Rains
 Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:02 PM
 To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: levels of daisy navigation in scanned books? And a variety of questions

 Rik,

 Here's the basics on DAISY navigation:

                      4)  Use these font sizes:         For the:
                           20 point  +  BOLDING        Book title
18 point + BOLDING Larger section headings (such as "Part I", or "Section 2") 16 point + BOLDING Headings for each section in the Front Matter, & Back Matter
                           16 point  +  BOLDING        Chapter headings
                           14 point  +  BOLDING        Chapter subheadings
12 point Text in the body of the book

5) Maximum font size for anything in the file: = 20 point Minimum font size for anything in the file: = 8 point


 
https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/4.+Proofread+a+book#4.Proofreadabook-4optionalproofreadingsteps

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 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:38:53 -0700
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] levels of daisy navigation in scanned books? And a variety of questions


Should we as book scanners ever see the day that we will scan our books and set the multi-levels of Daisy navigation?

I sure have been enjoying my own book scanning creating the Part 1 and part 2 as one level, and then the chapter headings as the next level down and so on.
 And this still has the page breaks as navigation, too.

I think from submitting a couple books, the RTF files do not have that capability, do they?

And while I am asking silly questions, some books we are getting to download, they have the daisy with image version as well as just daisy.
 What is that all about?  Can anyone enlighten me?

I had been more actively volunteering, and am just returning for a bit with a few books I wanted to submit and may try to proofread again. Are there a ton of changes since say about 18 months ago as far as proofreading goes? It seems that might be the case.

If so, and you have it handy, please post the link to the most fresh version of the volunteer manual.

 Thanks everyone for all your great work!

Rik
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