Hi Cindy,
I didn't comment on todays laws and provide a comparison like I
generally would because I honestly don't know. I know more about older
copyright laws from when I was involved with the old time radio community.
(I still am just not like I used to, my projects tend to come in phases,
BookShare has captured my attention the last year and a half).
I believe PG's rule is something along the lines of before 1923 because
the last major rewriting of the copyright laws were in 1998. I believe it
had to do with something along the lines of 75 years. Although again I don't
have an understanding about things published today, something about author's
life span or a preset number of years *shrugs*. I'm sure its entirely too
long though *grin*
Best,
jake
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:25 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: need copyright check on old book
Interesting. What is it now? For some reason I keep thinking 75 years. Project Gutenberg, when I started with them, wouldn't accept anything unless it was published befoe 1922, but that was a few years ago.
Cindy
--- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Cindy, Just a side note. At that time copyrights lasted for twenty-eight years with an optional one time renewal. So from 1956 to 1984 is a 28 year gap. 1984 is probably the renewal date. And like someone said the database available online only goes back to sometime in the 1970s.
Copyright law is much different now and changes affect older copyrights as well. The 28-28 was in effect during 1956 though.
Jake
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: need copyright check
on old book
> Tracy,
>
> In a way this is complicated, but in another way
it is
> not.
>
> The book is listed on Amazon.com and the copyright
> page is available to view. This is what I copied
from
> the copyright page: (from he beginning to the
final
> quotation mark, except for what I put in
parentheses)
> and probably what Carrie will find in the
university
> copy.
>
> "Originally published in Japan as Shin Heike
> Monogatari" (the Japanese title is in italics)
> "copyright symbol 1956 by Alfred A. Knopf, Inc.
>
> Published by Tuttle Publishing,
> an imprint of Periplus Editions (HK) Ltd.,
> by special arrangement with Alfred A. Knopf, Inc.,
New
> York
>
> All rights reserved. No part of this book may be
> reproduced in any form without permission in
writing
> from the publisher, except by a reviewer, who may
> quote brief passages in a review to be printed in
a
> magazine or newspaper.
>
> ISBN 0-8048-3318-4
>
> First Tuttle edition, 1956
> Thirteenth printing, 2002
>
> Printed in Singapore"
>
> Then comes, also on the copyright page, three
> paragraphs of Distributed by offices, which I have
not
> copied, but will if you need me to.
>
> It seems as if the book you have is a printing of
the
> 1956 book, and so Knopf has the copyright. The
> government copyright office has something
different,
> but what it has seems to refer to a book
copyrighted
> in 1984. Both Knopf, as "proprietor of a copyright
in
> a work made for hire," and Uramatsu, has
translator,
> hold copyrights to that book. I'm putting the
entire
> page from the copyright site below.
>
> I'd put in the Comments section, when you upload
the
> book, the paragraph I've just written, (except
change
> "It seems as if" to "The book I have" and explain
that
> you've checked both the copyright page that is
> available to view in Amazon and the government
> copyright site. They are different because they
are
> different editions, (a printing is not an edition
> because nothing in it is changed) My guess is
that
> the publisher, Knopf, hired Uramatsu to translate
the
> original book.
>
> Here's the copy of the only entry re the book at
the
> government copyright site.
>
> RE-229-674
> Title: The Heike story. By aEiji Yoshikawa,
> translator: acFuki
> Wooyenaka Uramatsu, illustrator: Kenkichi
Sugimoto.
> Note: Originally pub. in Japan as Heike
monogatari.
> Claimant: Fuki Wooyenaka Uramatsu (A) & acAlfred
A.
> Knopf , Inc. (PWH of Kenkichi Sugimoto)
> Effective Registration Date: 18Dec84
> Original Registration Date: 17Oct56;
> Original Registration Number: A256437.
> Original Class: A
>
> Good luck
>
> Cindy
>
>
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