Thanks mary, I will go and check that bok out again, and see what I did wrong. Thanks everyone for your help. I seriously appreciate it. Its great to know that none ofyou on here tret me like an idiot lol Thanks again _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:46 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: need some help Hi Ann, Given Ellen's previous message (Yaye Ellen for the info), you need to start numbering the pages on the page where chapter 1 starts. So that page will be 1, the next 2, and so on until you reach the end of the book. If you open your Word document and do no find and replacing, control+page-down will take you to the page break following the page on which your cursor is currently, which is a fast way to get from one page to the top of the next. Sorry if I'm giving you more information than you need. Just trying to make things a little easier. Good luck and happy proofreading! Mayrie _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Petrous Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:31 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: need some help And yes this is very overwhelming. So after I get the book back, I have to go back and insert the page numbers starting at the very end of the book? _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:17 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: need some help Hi Ann, Okay, let's see if I can make this make sense for you. The numbers that were read were the page numbers printed on the pages of the book itself. When Word says "page whatever number", it is telling you when it has passed a page break. A page break is the mark put in by the scanning software to tell us reading the electronic file where the page in the book ended. You always want to keep the printed page numbers. You can tell what these are by using your left and right arrow keys to read each individual number in the page number. You can't do this in reading a message from Word. So, and this is what confuses people. Most times page numbering does not begin on the first page of a book. The preliminary pages of a book are often not numbered at all. So, When Word tells you it's on page five, but the printed page number says you're on page 1, it means that there were four preliminary pages, generally containing a title page, copyright page, sometimes a blank page or two, and other stuff before the beginning of the story itself. You need to have the page numbers in the book, so if you removed them, you'll need to find the first page number that you didn't remove and insert going backward from there until you reach page 1, even if that means you have unnumbered pages at the beginning of the book. The preliminary and so far unnumbered pages need to be labeled/numbered with lower case Roman numerals starting with i for the very first page until you find the first page with an arabic number on it, 1, however many preliminary pages there are. If you have removed all of the page numbers from the proofread copy of the book, you can find out where to begin numbering by looking at the file that you downloaded from Bookshare to begin with that has not been cleaned up at all. By looking through this original file, you can find the proper page 1, even if you have to count backward from the first page number that scanned until you get there. You see, sometimes, single-digit page numbers don't scan and we have to insert them anyway. I know that all of this seems very very complicated. I certainly remember it feeling complicated when I started. If I have been unclear, please ask questions, and we'll get you on the right track. If you don't have a copy of the file that you downloaded from Bookshare, you can get it again by going to the "My Checked Out Books" page and downloading it again. Just make sure the name of the file doesn't match the one you've been proofreading in or you'll copy over all of your hard work when you download the file. I suggest making sure your proofread file has a different name before downloading another copy of the original scan. I do know how overwhelming and difficult this seems, but I promise you you'll figure it out, and we'll all help you! Good luck! Mayrie _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Petrous Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:56 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: need some help Let me see if I can explain myself, without confusing you. Before I started proofing the book, there were two sets of page numbers. One set of page numbers were from the scanned book, and the other was from Microsoft word. For example, it would say 1, and then it wold say page 5. Without thinking, I removed the numbers which were present in the scanned book, and left the page numbers indicated in the Microsoft word format. I hope that makes sense. Lol I was told to replace the numbers that were in the scanned book. Again, I hope this makes sense. _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:19 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: need some help Hi Ann, Do you want to replace pages of text, or page numbers? If you are talking about replacing page numbers that you removed, sorry, you'll have to replace those by hand. If you're talking about blocks of missing text, that's an entire other story and requires a much more lengthy explanation. If you can let us know which you need, we can certainly help you out. Sorry if I've missed an obvious bit of information. Mayrie _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Petrous Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:42 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] need some help Hello all, I really need some help replacing pages I accidently removed from "Wren To The Rescue." I don't know why I didn't ask if I should keep them in the first place. Can someone tell me how to do it, without having to go back and re-read everything, and to make sure that all the page numbers are in the right place? I would greatly appreciate any help. Ann