[bksvol-discuss] Re: points of navigation followed by three asterisks

  • From: "Martha Rafter" <mlhr@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:46:56 -0500

Hi Reggie,
Asterisks are optional after chapter headings. Asterisks should be added at scene change, time passing, etc. HTH

-----Original Message----- From: Reggie.alvarado@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:01 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: points of navigation followed by three asterisks

Confused, sorry. Do we need three asterisks in between chapter (number) and first line of text instead of a blank line? If so, same would hold true for titles of chapters, right? Understand asterisks if scene changes. Is this optional?

Reggie and Brooks


On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Madeleine Linares <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hey Cindy,

No blank spaces between lines will be shown as our converter removes them (unless there are asterisks on those blank lines). If the title is a larger font than the text, this is another way of showing the distinction between the chapter number/title and the text, but if you want to show that there is a blank line between the chapter number/title, please add in the asterisks.

Best,

Madeleine

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Rosenthal
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:45 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: points of navigation followed by three asterisks

wait-a-minute, do I understand you to mean here that if the chapter title is 16 point Bold (and in some cases caps) and the text is, as usual, 12 point lower case, the space can be a space and the asterisks aren't needed? I

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Madeleine Linares <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello all,

Some clarification: the converter removes blank lines. Unless there is something to note that the line is blank (such as an asterisk or three), the converter will squish the text up. The reason we added three asterisks was to note that there was a blank line between the chapter title/number and the text, and we used three asterisk to show that there was not a mistake or random character. This is also why the asterisks are unnecessary after the page break but before the chapter title.

As we have stressed before, consistency is key. If you want to note that there is a blank line in the text between the chapter and the text by putting in three asterisks, that's fine. If you would prefer to increase the font size to point fourteen (with the text size at 12 point) and bold the chapter name/number, this is also fine.

If there is a blank line elsewhere in the text, or if there is a symbol showing a change in scene, etc., please note this with the use of one or three asterisks. I would recommend using three asterisks rather than one to make sure that it is clear that there is a change in the text and not some random character on the line.

I hope that clears things up!

Best,

Madeleine Linares
Volunteer Coordinator
Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
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On 11/18/2012 3:21 PM, Doug Maples wrote:
I recently started proofreading a book in which the first four lines
of a chapter had:

blank line
Chapter 1
* * *
These are the first words of the first paragraph.

The chapter 1 and the three asterisks are all in 16 point bold and
the first words of the paragraph are in 12 point. This as it should be.

Here's my question:

We have recently been told to put the triple asterisks after the
chapter name. This is all new to me because for so many years we were
told to put a blank line to protect the Daisy navigation. It seems
counterproductive to me to put the triple asterisks were there should
be a blank line. Also, I would think that the Bookshare tool would
bring those asterisks up to the same line as the Chapter 1. The
Bookshare tool does not like chapter names of the same font size to
be on separate lines, so it will bring them up onto a single line.
But that leaves you without a blank line to separate all the chapter stuff from the paragraph.

Why can't we just leave off the triple asterisks? Much simpler and
much cleaner. And we don't have to worry about what the Bookshare
tool is going to do. Also, wouldn't you rather listen to just the
words than to hear your book reader telling you * * *?

Thanks,
- Doug


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