Dear all,
I am writing to you from Hong Kong and my SCW workshop participants are
mainly from mainland China. I am about to share some experience with the
cases regarding this corona virus:
1. a Chinese client who worked in London but his parents and brother are
living in Wuhan. His whole family is hospitalized and his father has
been tested positive with COVID19, and now is in ICU with serious lung
problem and kidney failure in critical condition. The client seeked my
help for how to face this situation a few days ago. He is facing the
fear that his father may passs away and the guilt of not being able to
support his mother and brother physically. More complication was that he
was sent away when he was young, the situation stimulated his sense of
helplessness again. What I did with him was only to find out his long
repressed loving words for his father and getting internal resources to
face any possibiliy.
2. we have now online courses regarding how to support people
psychologically. Front line medical professionals expressed that they
were overwhelmed by overcrowded patients, risk to be infected, but they
still insist to work because they are the guardian of bottom line. If
they failed, the whole society would pay much more substantial price.
They expressed on the class that what they really want from others are
just BEING SEEN, UNDERSTOOD and RESPECTED.
3. a sad story in Wuhan: a family of three all catched the virus, the
parents and a three year old girl. Father passed away firstly, then the
mother, and the little followed them. When the little girl was passing
away, she was holding a picture of her family in her hand...
The virus is really serious and the most obvious way of transmmiting is
through saliva and physical touch. That means the most risky people are
of family member or people who are dining with those who has caught the
virus. A common phenomenon is that once a person caught the virus, the
whole family may get infected also! Or somebody goes to a dinner with a
group of people then the whole group of people got infected. However,
the infected person may not have any symptom in 14 days before coughing,
fever really comes.
The virus is 'clever', disguised as 'normal cells' that confused our
bodies' immune system. The whole body was over-reacting such that was
losing normal balancing capabilities, and this is really lethal.
Now the other parts of world may be facing what Chinese has gone
through. Please take the matter seriously.
Wash your hands 30 seconds regularly, wear mask when you get to meet
somebody outside your home would be good minimum protection.
Be safe!
Fung
在 2020/3/14 15:46, Chris Walsh chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]
写道:
Thanks for trawling through the material and critically reviewing it Harrison.
I just invented another conspiracy theory just for fun. It has no validation whatsoever but it still could be true.
Coronavirus is a biological weapon invented by the Chinese in their biolabs in Wunan designed to win the trade war with the USA. The Chinese deaths are unfortunate but necessary collateral damage. Xi Jing Ping always keeps the big picture in mind. This epidemic has given the Chinese a perfect excuse to shut down their factories and deny the West access to essential supplies made there that the West has become so dependent on. The West can not now complain that this is an aggressive act but it will still bring them to their knees.
Moreover, it is not yet known that COVID19 (that's its official name now) interacts with a special gene sequence on the long arm of chromosome 4. The Chinese bioweapons experts have obtained some of Donald Trump's DNA and he has that very same gene sequence on chromosome 4. Rumor has it that they jumped for glee when they discovered this, chanting in Chinese " Number 4 very unlucky - Very unlucky for Donald Trump."
This Gene sequence only occurs in 20% of the population. When the virus acts on chromosome 4 it sets off a cascade of immune reactions resulting in a cytokine storm that destroys the lungs and kills the patient. People over 70 are especially likely to develop the full blast of this cytokine storm. (Trump is 73). As Trump is the main architect of the trade war, the Chinese now believe they have already won the trade war courtesy of COVID19.
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
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On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 1:07 AM Harrison Snow teambuilder@xxxxxxx <mailto:teambuilder@xxxxxxx> [ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As they say in debating "qualify your sources" It's also good to
actually read them.
I just read through the source document that is supposed to
support the conspiracy theory. It's a dense read with a lot of
technical terms.
No where in the article did I find anything asserting that this
pathogen was
man-made or engineered.
here's is what it did say.../This furin-like cleavage site, is
supposed to be cleaved during virus egress (Mille and Whittaker,
2014
<https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220300528?f#bib26>)
for S-protein “priming” and may provide a gain-of-function to the
2019-nCoV for efficient spreading in the human population compared
to other lineage b betacoronaviruses. This possibly illustrates a
convergent evolution pathway between unrelated CoVs./
/
/
Note the last line about convergent evolution...between unrelated
CoV's. We know that a virus can evolve quickly which is why the
flu has been so difficult to contain since mankind started
gathering in cities.
Perhaps the more interesting question (being the systemic thinkers
we are) is why we are discussing this topic in the first place on CT?
Why not just look systemically at this fear of "man-made" versus
"nature-made" threats to the general population and social order?
The fears (take your choice) are real emotions and likely
represent something that needs to be seen and included.
The bush shakes and our brain stem assumes its a tiger (or enemy)
shaking it instead of a bunny rabbit so this fear and fearful
reaction does have a function to ensure survival. From that
perspective the reaction we are seeing to the "shaking" occuring
globally and the "who" or "what" our survival brain assumes is
behind it is a hard-wired defensive response. No need to be
judgmental of ourselves or others when this response arises. The
opporrtunity here is bring more of the unconscious material
driving our emotional reaction into awareness.
Best Regards
Harrison Snow
https://changedynamicsinternational.com
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Coronavirus Covid-19 & (BSL-4) Biotech Warfare Labs & Cover-up
with Dr. Boyle - YouTube
Thank you, Anngwyn,
After I finished reading this thread, a friend posted this study
and a summary of it's findings. I'll also parenthetically comment,
that as an artifact of the US government, the term
"conspiracy theory" has an etiology and is not neutral, even
though many people have adopted it. For those concerned about what
is "fear-based," the term is used to discredit information that is
not sanctioned by the US government -- by inspiring the public's
fear and doubt about new information. For many years, concerns
over GMO's were so labeled, until a court case last year revealed
the scientific association with cancer as well as uncovering
proprietary information that revealed the company producing these
products buried the science and knowingly deceived the public. In
this context, to be genuinely neutral requires including rather
than excluding unwelcome information that could impact the
ecological, biological, and thought fields.
Here's the summary and the study:
“The spike glycoprotein of the new coronavirus 2019-nCoV contains
a furin-like cleavage site absent in CoV of the same clade.”
“This furin-like cleavage site… may provide a gain-of-function to
the 2019-nCoV for efficient spreading in the human population.”
Further, the science paper finds that there is no known viral
ancestry to the CoVid-19 coronavirus, meaning it did not evolve
from nature. It was *engineered*, and the science paper authors
also state that the virus contains elements from MERS, stating,
“Before the emergence of the 2019-nCoV, this important feature was
not observed in the lineage of betacoronaviruses.”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220300528?f
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Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Check out 2019 China Wuhan
Coronavirus Covid-19 & (BSL-4) Biotech Warfare Labs & Cover-up
with Dr. Boyle - YouTube
Professor Boyle wrote the International Bioweapons Act.
In a message dated 3/12/2020 7:20:59 PM US Mountain Standard
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I listened to this and believe this man is speaking well
beyond his knowledge. Let’s let the subject go.
Barbara Phillips
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On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Anngwyn anngwyn@xxxxxxx
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2019 China Wuhan Coronavirus Covid-19 & (BSL-4)
Biotech Warfare Labs & Cover-up with Dr. Boyle -
YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHxbBDIeJFY>
this one is clearer.
Anngwyn
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