I am happy to submit to the mystery!
Lutz
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From: "Moira Canes" <mjcanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Digest Number 1615
Dear Chris, Ann and Anngwyn,
I think trans-generational trauma, how morphogenetic fields "work", bonding, mirror neurons etc. will continue to mystify us. I love that! I love the Mystery. I look forward to reading the interview with Averil Earnshaw. Thanks.
Kind regards,
Moira
On 5-Aug-10, at 8:28 PM, anngwyn@xxxxxxx wrote:
Hello Moira,
While interesting, this trans-generational trauma through mirror neurons
does not explain how victims and perpetrators join family and other larger
systems. It seems that some other dynamic having to do with balance comes
into play.It is important to bear in mind that systemic constellation work
extends beyond families into larger systems and their often
trans-generational dynamics.This is one of the reasons that this work is so valuable for
understanding and resolving social trauma .
Warm Regards,
Anngwyn St. Just
www.acst-interantional.com
In a message dated 8/5/2010 5:06:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
mjcanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Dear Anne,
I'm just in the process of reading Franz Ruppert's book "Trauma,
Bonding & Family Constellations". The book explains how trauma is
passed down through the generations through bonding with our parents
and the part that mirror neurons play in this process. I highly
recommend it. It's an excellent book. So, YES, is the answer to your
question.
Kind regards, Moira Canes
On 5-Aug-10, at 7:41 PM, Anne Beversdorf wrote:
> I've mostly "lurked" here, but just had an experience and thought
> I'd like to share. (I do group constellations rarely, and individual
> constellations somewhat more regularly, when they seem called for in
> my normal astrological practice. I've been doing this since 1998.)
>
> So, I've got a story to tell followed by a question...
>
> I just did a constellation for myself, preceded a few years ago by a
> vision in which I "became" my grandfather, a young boy of about 5,
> weeping inconsolably because his parents were at the graveyard. I'd
> long known his general history: his father died, his uncle took the
> kids from the mother (German-Texan law), the mother raised a $500/
> child bond to regain custody and promptly died herself. I only
> recently learned he was 5 when his father died, so only recently
> realized he effectively lost both parents when he was the age I
> temporarily "embodied". (His mother died when he was 12, but I don't
> know the year when she regained custody.)
>
> I remember my own childhood until age 5 as happy, with me
> ridiculously self-confident and optimistic, and remember that after
> that I became more "serious"--melancholy even, but can't identify
> anything difficult that happened in my life at that time. As an
> adult I've suffered periods of deep depression for no apparent
> reason. So my personal constellation reconnected me with my
> grandfather and seems not only to have rescued me from a bout of
> depression, but has triggered some big inner shifts I am only
> beginning to see.
>
> So here's the question. We see so often the effect of family history
> in constellations... Do you think it's at all possible that "mirror
> neurons" work across generations? According to my neurologist
> brother, these have a specific location in the brain. If emotions
> are carried by parents into the offspring, is it possible that
> mirror neurons are involved in multigenerational trauma (or success,
> for that matter)?
>
> Anne Beversdorf
> Counseling Astrologer
> Western and Vedic
> www.stariel.com
> anne@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
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