Dear Alan,
your comment
I may be getting a bit "out there" for this group
a.. raises some interesting questions like:
b.. What is too out there?
c.. Is it even a problem?
d.. How do we separate the wheat from the chaff?
Firstly I think that anything goes as long as:
1. It somehow relates to constellations
2. It is respectful.
Different viewpoints as to what is valuable and what is not is part of the
spice that makes ConstellationTalk interesting and valuable. Some people will
be attracted to the "out there" stuff just because it is "out there" Others
will be attracted to more conventional scientifically based observations
because it appears scientific and acceptable. Nonetheless both approaches have
their advantages and disadvantages .
Out there stuff is sometimes out there because it is goofy and stupid and can
be proven to be so. However it can expand us beyond limited worldviews and can
contain valuable insights. Conventional science can also just be a
sophisticated form of superstition - sometimes branded as "Scientism". It can
unnecessarily limit our horizons. However it is a remarkably useful tool for
progressing our understanding as long as we recognise its limitations.
Prophesies are interesting when their accuracy far exceeds what could
reasonably thought to be possible through guess work. Take for example the
eighth century prophesy of the Tibetan Buddhist teacher Padmasambhava:
"when the iron bird flies, and horses run on wheels,/ The Tibetan people will
be scattered like ants across the world,/ And the Dharma (Buddhist Teachings)
will come to the land of the red man."
So Alan, if the prophesies you are talking about somehow relate to
constellation work and seem to carry some weight like the one just mentioned,
then I for one would be very interested to read them in this forum.
hasta la vista
Chris Walsh
An Australian Constellation Website:
www.constellationflow.com
----- Original Message -----
From: ALAN ROBERSON
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] From Bolivia
Dear Daniel, Congratulations to you and to all of the people of Bolivia, and
thanks to the earth and the water and the air. I will be paying attention to
your part of the world, and I send my blessings to the great party your people
will have.
In my part of the world (USA) great changes are also coming. Yesterday I was
walking in the woods and I was in conflict with how to look at the Bush family.
Do I pray for that family system to be healed, or do I fight them? I asked
the woods. I was in awe of the answer. I could feel/see the small valley I
was in fill up with clear water higher than the tops of the trees. I felt
very humbled as I walked away, knowing that I was to do my own work, healing
myself, and that I would heal others. The greater forces are in control. At
this time, I am still struggling with being angry and with being the change
that I want to see.
Many of us can feel the changes coming; the 2004 Hellinger/First Nations
Conference in Canada spoke of a Cherokee Indian prophecy. Also in North
America is the Seventh Fire prophecy and the Hopi prophecy. I may be getting a
bit "out there" for this group, but I feel that constellation work is a part of
these changes. Thank you for the good news from Bolivia, have a great
celebration.
Alan
Roberson
"Daniel Mac Lean E." <synapsys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear friends: My name is Daniel, I am pioneering Constel work in my country
Bolivia. I wanted to invite you to pay attention to this part of the world in
the following days, specially 21 and 22. When the first elected indigenous
president will be positioned in two different ceremonies the first 21 jan,
will be the non "official" one, in the ruins of Tiwanaku at Lake Titikaka where
in traditional indigenous ritual he is going to ask for permission to govern as
president, to the Bolivian peoples and then to the greater forces, the great
father Inti the sun, and the great mother Pachamama. Then an indigenous leader
and a K'allawaya(shaman) are going to invest him.
Many many people is coming from many countries, writers, musicians,
presidents, social movements leaders, even probably north american Indians. The
next day he will "officially" assume the presidency. There are so many mythic,
symbolic and constellar connotations around all these happenings. I think great
changes are coming, I feel it in the earth, I feel it in the water, I smell it
in the air...
What a great party we will have. You are invited.
Hug to all
Daniel.
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