dear otteline
i do not believe i used the word 'benefit' in my message.
here is what i said"
i find it difficult to countenance that doing this work - in which one is essentially a servant of the orders of love themselves - would lead to any increase in major illnesses or diseases as she seems to be, at least anecdotally, suggesting. it would go against any intuitive understanding of the orders of love being essentailly benign and in the service of love itself, not creating pain either in those it serves or in those that serve it.
Hello known and unknown friends,
A few more thoughts :
We (Peter and me) think it is important to see that a distinction
should be made in this work between the perspective of the personality
and the perspective of the soul. Usually these two perspectives are
very much in contradiction.
What is seen as harmful from the perspective of the personality (f.i. a
disease) might not be harmful at all from the perspective of the soul.
Actually this is what one can observe regularly during constellations.
Even, such an illness might be an opportunity to get in contact with a
deeper understanding of the Greater Whole.
Standing in a constellation may give me (Otteline) a usefull, even
necessairy insight into the forces of craziness, but in my daily life,
my personality likes to stay healthy and does what is needed for that
as much as possible.
Luckily, "the wisdom of the field", does not choose me so much anymore,
apart from the more sophisticated roles, as being a country f.i.
(smiley!).
The same goes for the word "benefit". If you talk about "benefit" from
which perspective do you perceive this, Sarah? I see a benefit, if
people get more peace and openess in their hearts, which is defenitely
true in many cases. But there is much more in this work, which I cannot
explain, nor even grasp.
This work is not only about love, but also about the deep distortions
of love.There is also the issue of good and evil we have to deal with
on this planet. We both have experienced many evil forces in
constellations during the last eight years since we have been doing
this work . It is also about murderous energy, craziness and great
suffering. And yes Chris, we have seen people (cliënts and
representatives) nearly getting into psychosis. Luckily we (Peter and
me) or other facilitators we have seen working, could keep them "on
the earth" so to speak. But you need the skills to recognize these
signals and know how to react on the spot. We do not know personally
about people who got really psychotic after a workshop.
But we do know several experienced representatives who suffered for
several days rather weird and dangerous reactions after
constellations with very strong and crazy-making forces.
And there is also the experience that you do hard work with the cliënt
and a very 'good' constellation has been done, only to find out some
time later that the illness has passed on to another member in the
system!!
All these experiences make us more humble and with lesser certainty
about what it is all about , these forces we are working with.
Hopefully this is a further contribution to a very usefull discussion.
Warmly,
Otteline Lamet
Peter en Otteline van Zuilekom-Lamet
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