I agree with you Steven and I think the idea of humility, honour and respect is
something we in the Western world have mostly lost touch with.
In terms of the example of someone looking down being interpreted as looking at
a dead person I agree it is in principle not a good idea to prematurely
interpret these things. At the same time, holding it as a possibility is
helpful, as are many other similar indicators. We don't want to 'throw the baby
out with the bath water' as a reaction against being seen as grandiose or
interpretive.
Best wishes
Barbara
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On 11 Mar 2016, at 05:07, "Steve Vinay Gunther spirited@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I really appreciated this link to the article on South African traditions and
the constellation work.
I agree, this helps ground some of the ideas and practices of FC.
I agree also that the principles of systemics and phenomenology also ground
our work.
I notice some constellation work becomes what I call ‘esoteric’, by which I
mean, highly interpretive, and invoking a certain kind of authority whereby
the facilitator claims a kind of inside track on reality.
Frankly, I am even a little wary of ideas such as looking down means looking
at dead people. I think it might sometimes be a clue, but I like to stay much
simpler, and see if the constellation configuration, energy and
representatives provides a more direct communication.
So the kind of reference point of South African traditional concepts that is
outlined in the article provides a relatively non-esoteric ground for
understanding what we see in constellations; it is not only coherent with
basic constellation concepts, its clearly the source out of which they come.
I think this kind of going back to basics is of great value, and pulls
against the temptation for grandiosity which constellations can be subject to.
Vinay
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