There is some controversy in Germany regarding the overlap and divergences
between Satirs and Hellingers approaches. Karen is correct that Satirs
Family Reconstructions and Sculpture Work followed Moreno's concepts as
highly detailed role-plays to which she added symbols and ritual.
While she is broadly acknowledged as a creative innovator, her approach to
treating families has been largely discarded in the United States in favor
of mandated interventions, cognitive-behavioral therapy, and pharmaceutical
treatments. The rift between Satir and the Behavioral therapy was exposed
at a Board meeting of Family Process in 1974. Satir and Salvatore Minuchin
debated their contrasting views. Minuchin argued in favor of the
maintaining the scientific orientation of psychology, contending that
skills, rather than warmth and faith, directed the interventions required to
fix broken families. Satir spoke for the healing power of love. The
profession followed Minuchins lead. Satir fell out of step with the
mainstream of family therapy and became a world traveler, spending a good
part of the last years of her life teaching in Germany.
In 2009, I met Gesa Jürgens in Wustrow, Germany. She was a founder of a
family therapy training institute in Weinheim in 1975. She claims that
Hellinger came there and was introduced to Family Constellations at a
training seminar given by Satir. She said that by then Satirs approach had
evolved into what is now recognized as Family Constellations. According to
Jürgens, Hellinger absorbed her new approach, but did not acknowledge
Satirs influence directly in his official biographies.
According to the ISCA site, The pioneer of transgenerational systemic
thinking was Virginia Satir who developed family sculpture, the precursor of
systemic constellations, which Bert Hellinger observed and integrated with
the phenomenological method.
Dan
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I so appreciate all this info and food for thought. I plan to dig out my
books on Satir and read more closely.
I do want to say, however, that Systemic Constellations, which has been
linked to Virigina Satir's work on Wikipedia and in other places on the web
is NOT the same thing as the Family Reconstruction.
Family Reconstructions are carefully planned and constructed events for a
particular person, called the "star," that happen on a prearranged day and
look over the person's life in a kind of dramatic timeline. The facilitator
may have gathered props, interviewed people previously and otherwise
produces the event. It is much more based on role play, like psychodrama,
than the phenomenological process.
More is written about Family Reconstruction in the book "Satir Step By Step"
By Michele Baldwin. Sharon Wegsecheider Cruse, a main Virginia protégé, also
has written a great book in this tpic.
Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
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I think that Virginia Satir first used the term "constellation" in her
family therapy work. Bert had contact with her and I think (though this is
just my opinion) that he was the one to translate the term for his synthesis
(Familien-Stellen), calling the model of standing up reps, a constellation.
Any of our 1st generation German facilitators reading along that can add
something here??
Interesting chat as always, thanks. sheila
Sheila Saunders, RN, LMFT
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PO Box 1011 Weaverville, North Carolina 28787
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"When we have passed a certain age, the soul of the child we were and the
souls of the dead from whom we have sprung come to lavish on us their riches
and their spells." -Marcel Proust (In Search of Lost Time)
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Maybe this is too obvious... but a placement of Stars in the night sky since
days of the Greeks painted a celestial picture of our place in the Cosmos
and that the myths and stories we create and project onto those pictures...
define different levels of our psyche. The same with Our Constellations a
movement of people (multi-dimensionally) into a new configuration forming an
Order (of Love) that can been seen, felt and experienced in a new way. Hence
the Healing power of a new picture. I personally prefer The blind or
concealed way of doing it with speaking rather than silence... WORDS have a
very powerful clarifying effect as they have been repressed and unexpressed
for centuries' and have remained unspoken and acted out rather than
expressed directly. I find after this the Charge is gone and there's peace
where there was once movement and tension between the Star formation.. such
as Mother, Father, Siblings etc...
Blessings as we discuss and define this healing ART FORM on this wonderful
forum Chris has provided!
Namaste GARY STUART LA, CA Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Gary%40Chifield.com>
Registrar for the 3rd US Conference www.usconstellations.com
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Hi, Karen,
The German word 'Aufstellung' has not got a really great translation into
English, because most people immediately think of the night sky when they
hear the English word! The term 'Constellation', which is actually used in
all the English literature on the subject that I have read so far, is just
one that comes closest.
The German word means literally 'set-up", but since this has a double
meaning in English is it is better explained via the verb 'aufstellen',
which it derived from. And that means setting an object into a position.
Hope that it is a satisfying explanation.....
Best wishes to all
Ulrike
Ulrike Danks
Certified Facilitator
HEALING BEYOND WORDS
Family Constellations WA
Denmark Western Australia 6333
61 - (0)8 - 98481280
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Hello,
The original word of this work in German is "Aufstellung " which means
"placement, assembly. " The word "constellation" appears in very few
German's books and, I would say, that's happening more in recent books,
normally translated from other languages such as French. In French, Spanish,
Italian and Portuguese always used the word "constellation", because
"placement" do not have a visual connotation as "constellation", I suppose.
How did this happen? I do not know, but I´m curious too.
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Hello,
I'm curious about how the term "constellation" came to be attached this
work. I have been told that the term Constellation is somewhat problematic
as it was translated into English from the German. Since I don't speak
German, I'd like to know the origins. Much thanks to anyone who canprovide
information.
Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
Lake House Health & Learning Center
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