Yes, exactly right, Chris. The current wiki entry is a VERY abbreviated,
changed and clearly antagonistic version of that which was worked on in the
past by Chris, myself, Bill Mannle, Dan Cohen and a number of others. You can
scroll to the bottom and see the edit history - it goes quite far back, though
not all those editing can be identified. But it is evident that it has been
consistently edited into it's current iteration - which is clearly not a good
one.
I don't know how much of the article can be altered, I have been out of the
loop of that for some time now. But there are fantastic descriptions online,
any of which can be copied and pasted, with references provided, to replace
what is there - if it CAN all be replaced. Yes, someone with the time to do it,
could provide a great service.
Maybe those who are putting on conferences around the world, could incorporate
this into the marketing function, to keep an eye on WIKI and enable it's use as
a good marketing tool.
But remember too, WIKI is what it is. The internet has taken over as the
authority on everything, but in most cases it is a secondary source. I don't
refer people to WIKI when they ask about Systemic Constellations. I refer them
to my website, or the websites of other's in the field, to ConstellationTalk,
to Love's Hidden Symmetry, or a number of other books by the master's or the
very experienced. Those who use WIKI are looking for the quickest option, not
the most accurate or informative, and they get what they pay for.
All the best, sheilsa
Sheila Saunders RN, LMFT
828.273.5015
PO Box 1011
Weaverville, NC 28787
www.systemicfamilysolutions.com
On Jan 6, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Chris Walsh chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have also edited this article many years ago. I think there is a a dispute
resolution process when someone keeps "trolling" an entry. Maybe someone has
time to investigate that.
Cheers
Chris Walsh
On Thursday, 7 January 2016, Heiki Eesmaa heiki.eesmaa@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Guys,
anybody can edit the article. "Strategizing" here is ridiculous. Go and make
it better.
I see Dan Booth Cohen has edited the article in the distant past (2007).
all the best
Heiki
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Harrison Snow teambuilder@xxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The write up manages to be both negative and patronizing. There must be a
way to update it
and give a fair presentation of constellation work.
Thanks for mentioning it
Harrison Snow
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Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Read these 3 short paragraphs. Is this HURTING
us, hurting Family Constellation work??
When someone searches for Family constellation on the web (in English), The
number 1 page that comes up is Wikipedia.
So many of our clients get their information about Constellations here.
If Wikipedia's description is negatively written, does this hurt our
modality and our profession?
First read Wikipedia's 3 paragraph description of Psychodrama, a close
cousin to Family Constellation work:
Psychodrama is an action method, often used as a psychotherapy, in which
clients use spontaneous dramatization, role playing and dramatic
self-presentation to investigate and gain insight into their lives.[1]
Developed by Jacob L. Moreno, M.D. (1889–1974) psychodrama includes
elements of theater, often conducted on a stage, or a space that serves as
a stage area, where props can be used. A psychodrama therapy group, under
the direction of a licensed psychodramatist, reenacts real-life, past
situations (or inner mental processes), acting them out in present time.
Participants then have the opportunity to evaluate their behavior, reflect
on how the past incident is getting played out in the present and more
deeply understand particular situations in their lives.[2] Psychodrama
offers a creative way for an individual or group to explore and solve
personal problems. It may be used in a variety of clinical and
community-based settings, and is most often utilized in a group scenario,
in which each person in the group can become therapeutic agents for one
another's scenes. Psychodrama is not, however, a form of group therapy, and
is instead an individual psychotherapy that is executed from within a
group. There are "side-benifits" that the other group members may
experience, as they make relevant connections and insights to their own
lives from the psychodrama of another. A psychodrama is best conducted and
produced by a person trained in the method, called a psychodrama
director.[3]
In a session of psychodrama, one client of the group becomes the
protagonist, and focuses on a particular, personal, emotionally problematic
situation to enact on stage. A variety of scenes may be enacted, depicting,
for example, memories of specific happenings in the client's past,
unfinished situations, inner dramas, fantasies, dreams, preparations for
future risk-taking situations, or unrehearsed expressions of mental states
in the here and now.[2] These scenes either approximate real-life
situations or are externalizations of inner mental processes. Other members
of the group may become auxiliaries, and support the protagonist by playing
other significant roles in the scene[2] or may step in, as a "double" who
plays the role of the protagonist.
A core tenet of psychodrama is Moreno's theory of
"spontaneity-creativity".[4] Moreno believed that the best way for an
individual to respond creatively to a situation is through spontaneity,
that is, through a readiness to improvise and respond in the moment.[5] By
encouraging an individual to address a problem in a creative way, reacting
spontaneously and based on impulse, they may begin to discover new
solutions to problems in their lives and learn new roles they can inhabit
within it.[4] Moreno's focus on spontaneous action within the psychodrama
was developed in his Theatre of Spontaneity, which he directed in Vienna in
the early 1920s.[6] Disenchanted with the stagnancy he observed in
conventional, scripted theatre, he found himself interested in the
spontaneity required in improvisational work. He founded an improvisational
troupe in the 1920s. This work in the theatre impacted the development of
his psychodramatic theory.
Now read the short Wikipedia 3 paragraph description of Family
Constellation work:
Family Constellations is an alternative therapeutic method which draws on
elements of family systems therapy, existential phenomenology and Zulu
attitudes to family.[1] In a single session, a Family Constellation
supposedly attempts to reveal a previously unrecognized systemic dynamic
that spans multiple generations in a given family and to resolve the
deleterious effects of that dynamic by encouraging the subject to accept
the factual reality of the past.
Family Constellations diverges significantly from conventional forms of
cognitive, behaviour and psychodynamic psychotherapy. The method has been
described by physicists as quantum quackery, and its founder Bert Hellinger
incorporates the pseudoscientific idea of morphic resonance into his
explanation of it. Positive outcomes from the therapy have been attributed
to conventional explanations such as suggestion and empathy.[2]
Practitioners claim that present-day problems and difficulties may be
influenced by traumas suffered in previous generations of the family, even
if those affected now are unaware of the original event in the past. A
theoretical foundation for this concept is called The Ancestor Syndrome in
psychology.[3] Hellinger referred to the relation between present and past
problems that are not caused by direct personal experience as Systemic
entanglements, said to occur when unresolved trauma has afflicted a family
through an event such as murder, suicide, death of a mother in childbirth,
early death of a parent or sibling, war, natural disaster, emigration, or
abuse.[4] The psychiatrist Iván Böszörményi-Nagy referred to this
phenomenon as Invisible Loyalties.
Now, it may be just me, but I believe that Wikipedia's Family Constellation
description, as written, is negatively biased.
Particularly these two points:
"In a single session, a Family Constellation supposedly attempts to reveal"
"The method has been described by physicists as quantum quackery, and its
founder Bert Hellinger incorporates the pseudoscientific idea of morphic
resonance into his explanation of it. Positive outcomes from the therapy
have been attributed to conventional explanations such as suggestion and
empathy"
I believe that this description, which is probably the NUMBER ONE ENGLISH
DESCRIPTOR IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, being negatively slanted, hurts us and
hurts our profession. Note, there is nothing like this in the Psychodrama
description.
What are your thoughts, Am I right? does this matter? If it does, should we
do something?
From Boulder Colorado, Jack Blackwell
Jack Blackwell (720) 458-5363
Connecting Spirit & Psychology ~ Creating profound insights and Healing
Family Constellation Workshops & Trainings, Holotropic Breathwork
Visit us at Family-Constellation.com to learn more
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Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9487 4647
www.cwalsh.com.au
