Re: [ConstellationTalk] Sarah
- From: "Dee Yoh" <deeyoh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 22:25:03 -0400
I'm a facilitator in the US. My experience does not support the theory that facilitators suffer from more serious disease. There is an emotional holding that a facilitator supports and it is important to understand what each one needs to do to take care of themselves. If they don't take care of themselves, of course they are at greater risk, however, that is true of any discipline, not specific to this one. This is just my opinion based on personal observation.
>From: Sarah Moore
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>To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Being a representative while pregnant
>Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:22:40 +1000
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>dear all,
>this reply from otteline amazed me and i'm also curious that no-one
>else has picked it up and commented on it.
>i find it difficult to countenance that doing this work - in which
>one is essentially a servant of the orders of love themselves -
>would lead to any increase in major illnesses or diseases as she
>seems to be, at least anecdotally, suggesting. it would go against
>any intuitive understanding of the orders of love being essentailly
>benign and in the service of love itself, not creating pain either
>in those it serves or in those that serve it.
>i would say any percieved increase in disease states in those that
>practitioner it would be more likely due to the stress of their
>practice upon themselves rather than be to do with the nature of the
>work itself. and although i haven't run any myself yet to compare,
>my impression is that this work is LESS stressful per se than many
>other types of group work, once the facilitator surrenders to
>something larger than themselves.
>i would be interested in other's comments on this
>happy easter
>sarah
>
>Libby Nottle wrote:
>
>>At the workshop Chris and I ran recently a woman who was (not
>>visibly) pregnant was chosen as a representative. During the
>>constellation as often happens, she experienced some distressing
>>sensations. Although these were ameliorated later in the
>>constellation the question was asked of us as to whether it is
>>appropriate for pregnant woman to be representatives. I had not
>>heard any comments in workshops I've attended, so sought Judith
>>Hemmings and Otteline Lamet and Peter van Ziulekom's advice. I
>>thank them for their replies and post them here for others to
>>consider.
>> Otteline and Peter's response was more detailed:
>>It is an interesting question you brought up.
>>Untill now we haven't given it much thought as we haven't met this
>>issue yet. At least this is what we think. I noticed in myself
>>(Otteline) lately, since Peter has this eyeproblem and need all his
>>energy to get healed, that I felt very reluctant the few moments he
>>was
>>asked to be a representative in a constellation in our
>>intervisiongroup
>>and educational-groups.. My feeling was: "No strange energies in
>>your
>>body now. You never know on forehand what mess you are getting
>>into".
>>We also hear from many people who are often working with "the
>>orders of
>>love" , that they seem to have more serious deseases. Now, one can
>>speculate about the what and how of the relationship between the
>>two,
>>but the work certainly does something to someone over a shorter or
>>longer period of time. And we do not know whether this is good or
>>bad.
>>So, back to your question about a pregnant woman: would you like to
>>have your baby experience all these influences? I don't think I
>>would.
>>At least I would be very specific in which representative place to
>>take and which one to turn down. And again, you never know on
>>forehand
>>into what energies you will have to take part.
>>Libby Nottle
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