This is a very interesting discussion. What obviously happened is that an atom
bomb was dropped and great destruction followed. Nothing justified this,
regardless of whether the Americans warned the Japanese or not.
This is what happens when science is cut off from the heart. And this is what
happens when we split hatred.
Talking about explosions and bombs I find it very strange that we never
discussed - unless I missed on that one- the current situation in the world and
the rising violence. People are not talking about it but from what I see
everybody is scared. There is a real threat to humanity as such and many
people can see it.
Amena Kern
On 31.08.2014, at 16:43, "Harrison Snow teambuilder@xxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk]" <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
thanks Vinay for sharing the details of this deep constellation
there is a book called Eyewitness to History
which is really is about man’s inhumanity to man throughout recorded history
A long sad saga….in need for seeing and grieving and one of these days ending
the pattern
On the issue of the negotiations for surrender - the story I’ve heard is that
the US
misinterpeted the Japanese response as “treated with contempt” instead of
consideration.
Truman made the decision based on the projected cost in human lives that an
invasion would
inflict. Of course, how you view history depends on which side you sit and
there is a need
for a neutral third party to sort out what really happened.
thanks again
Harrison Snow
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Thank you so much Vinay.
On Aug 31, 2014, at 2:49 AM, Steve Vinay Gunther spirited@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi folks
I have just finished a workshop in Hiroshima. I wanted to share with you
some of the experience.
Beforehand, I paid the necessary visit to the Peace Museum. Every detail of
the history and background, the actuality of ground zero, and the aftermath
was there. I read every single line, looked at every single picture, every
exhibit. Many emotions going through me. It was essential to bear witness
to something absolutely intolerable. Mans’ inhumanity. The museum didn’t
mince words about the Japanese responsibility for the destructiveness of
military expansionism, the forced labour of Koreans and other brought to
work in munitions factories. It also laid out plainly, without any
unnecessary drama, the role of the US. I didn’t really fully get it before.
But dropping the bomb was absolutely unnecessary. Japan was already engaged
in negotiations to surrender. The US did not reveal the threat of the bomb,
which in itself could have completely changed everything. They just dropped
it. They needed to justify the billions of dollars spent. And even more
cynically (if its possible), is that they wanted to mark the territory,
like a dog against a lampost, so the Soviets wouldnt have designs on Japan.
So they created mass suffering, just for this purpose; and also, for a kind
of evil scientific interest in ‘what would happen’. For years after the war
the Americans operated facilities where they would regularly examine
victims of the blast, suffering radiation sickness, but not treat them.
Examine but not treat - that seems as bad as Mengele to me.
Then the workshop; on the second day, a woman brought the issue of ‘sorry
for being me’
Her setup of the constellation was very strange. I have never seen anything
like it. The mother and father were next to each other, facing the same
direction. Then her brother was on one side, and she was on the other, a
little further away, facing in, so it looked like a U-shape, with lots of
space. Like a quadrangle.
Her grandmother was affected by the Nagasaki bomb, and died some years
later of cancer. She had shards of glass in her body, from the blast.
So I got the client to add all the grandparents. They were also arranged in
this odd manner. I commented it looked like spectators lining the streets,
with the mother and father facing forward.
It seemed clear the mother and father were facing the war, so I put a rep
for war at the front. Now it was a rectangle. It was still very odd - so
much space.
Then I remembered the pictures from the museum, of what the city looked
like after the atomic blast. Completely cleared. Nothing left. Just a big
space. This space reminded me of that space - like a hole in the middle of
everything.
So next, I placed victims on the ground in that space. The mother wanted to
join the victims, and lay down. The grandmother turned away. The client
wanted to move to the position where war was, so I put war into the middle
of the atomic blast space.
Now the client became aware of her choice - to be sorry for being alive,
and identify with her mother and the victims, to turn away as her
grandmother had done - because it was too much to hold. Or to be in the
leadership position, and bear witness to the pain and suffering and horror,
and hold onto herself. A rep for life stood behind her, and supported her.
I have tears as I write this, and of course, everyone present was deeply
moved. There were many people at the workshop who were local to Hiroshima
and Nagasaki, and who had therefore family connections to what occurred.
I appreciate so deeply this work, the capacity to broach these huge social
issues, in a way which can bring healing. And for the people who come,
willing to open up their stories, willing to do the healing work.
Vinay
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