Rouqqia,
I am wondering about the label 'brain diseases' but I'll leave that to
others to comment on. Schizophrenia and bipolar seem to be caused
systemically by a murder in the family's past. The person identifies with
both the murderer and the victim, and splits mentally. There was a workshop
that Bert did in Santa Barbara on the subject of mental illness that is
available on either tape or DVD from
http://www.essentialsolutions.info/pubs.htm and you might also want to read
Bert's book 'Farewell - family constellations with descendants of victims
and perpetrators'.
Diane Yankelevitz
diane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
406-586-2376
www.WisdomHealing.com
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From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rouqqia hussain
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 6:22 AM
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] what do brain malfunctions mean systemically?
In response to your email Joallyn, where you talk about the roots of heavy
diseases being in the person already, what's the systemic basis for Multiple
Sclerosis?
I've heard that like other brain diseases, eg schizophrenia, epilepsy,
psychosis; it's about trying to avert murder by disabling oneself....Bert
did a workshop in America about this a while back.
Rouqqia
From: "annieblockpearl" <annieblock@xxxxxxx>
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To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Re: lingering transference issues
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:36:28 -0000
Dear Dan, Diane, Joseph, Kenn, Gail, Chiara, Max, Joallyn, etc.
Thank you for your thoughtful posts on this topic. You have provided
much food for thought and much impetus for continued personal
exploration.
Joallyn, I heartily agree with you, that follow-up support should be
available for these delicate responses. I suspect that Bert would say
that the individuals' own soul will provide what is necessary but I,
as a therapist, feel the responsibility to hold the space for
continued work, if desired or necessary.
This personal experience has been a demonstration of the profundity
and healing qualities of this work.
In awe and humility I offer you love and blessings,
Annie
www.annieblockpearl.com
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<j.dawirs@...> wrote:
people.
Dear Annie,
From my experience, this phenomenon can cause big problems in some
Even if I achieved my formation some years ago, I continue to workmembers. Why?
exclusively in individual sessions, sometimes with all family
Because, since the beginning I assist to those issues. Too manypeople come
to me having taken from other people when being representants. Going todisease
extremly havy diseases. For my self, I think that the roots of the
are in the person self but that the disease was activated throughthe work
in the constellations...to the
Many of the people seem to have spoken those sentences to give back
person concerned. One constallator can not be too attentive to thepeople
who come to him/her. And it takes time to control the people for nottaking
home something that doesn't belong to them.works.
Sai Baba has proposed a solution to constellors.... a solution that
Kind regards
Joallyn Dawirs
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Date : Sun, 27 May 2007 20:44:37 -0000
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Objet : [ConstellationTalk] lingering transference issues
Dear colleagues,
As a constellator in New York City I have observed a phenomenon both
within myself and some participants in my groups. I'd appreciate any
comments you may have concerning lingering transference issues.
My initial training as a facilitator was completed five years ago.
Despite initial clearing exercises and the passage of time,I still
retain strong feelings for those group members who represented in my
personal constellations. These feelings persist despite my real-life
knowledge and continued exposure to these people.Participants in my
group have experienced the same phenomenon resulting from powerful
personal work, despite the clearing exercises and cautions that I
offer in our workshops.
I haven't experienced these transferences as a problem, but it
certainly is something of which to be mindful.
Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions?
Annie Block Pearl, M.S.
Integrative Therapy
Systemic, Structural and Family Constellations
ordained Interfaith Minister
www.annieblockpearl.com
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