Great to hear some are picking up the baton. Chris do you still want me to go
ahead with looking at the possibility of archiving previous email exchanges on
TKF website? Is that a separate issue?
Warmly
Barbara
Sent from my iPhone
On 25 Oct 2020, at 02:22, Tommy Waikiki tommyvacation@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Chris,
Freelists is completely free, on Linux, Apache server, it's been around for
20 years, they say there will be no adds, ever. No limit on number of users,
or bandwidth.
I had already registered ConstellationTalk on freelists a few hours after
your first post not realizing now
that you are looking for more candidates to be the moderator.
Therefore, I would like to volunteer this venue on freelists for your
choosing either for Daniel lr to whoever else of your choosing.
I also have reserved the same name on the following:
Google Groups
Groups.io
Facebook Groups
Please feel free to use them and if you would consider my request...
Please stay
Warm Regards,
Tommy Tran
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 6:27 PM Chris Walsh chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That looks good Daniel
Has anyone here had experience with free lists and does anyone know whether
they bombard people with advertising or have any other nasty hidden gremlins?
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9420 1425
www.mindfulness.org.au
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:58 AM Daniel Gackle danielgackle@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I heard back from the FreeLists people. Not only can they import the
archives, they already have software prepared to migrate Yahoo Groups into
their system
(https://www.freelists.org/wiki/doku.php?id=migrating_from_other_services).
They said that if we run their script to download the content from Yahoo,
they will do the rest.
They will also take care of migrating the existing subscribers, which would
mean an easy transition for most of the group.
Not only that, but they only took a few minutes to answer my email, and did
so personally.. That is an unusually good sign.
I will try my hand at running their script to see if it actually does
download the ConstellationTalk archives from Yahoo. I'll then report back
to the group. This may take me a few days.
Daniel
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 4:40 PM Daniel Gackle <danielgackle@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Greetings all,
ConstellationTalk and its archive are one of the treasures of the work in
the English-speaking world. I hope that it can continue, along with its
rich archive.
I haven't posted to CT before. I'm a constellation facilitator and a loyal
reader and, like all of you here, I love constellation work. In my day
job, I work in the tech industry and operate an internet forum with about
5 million users.
I agree with Mishra and others that CT will do much better to continue as
an email list. Many members, including some of our esteemed elders, do not
have accounts on Facebook, Nextdoor, or other platforms. We will lose them
if we try to make such a switch. There are many other problems with these
platforms too, but perhaps that's for another discussion.
For email lists, Google Groups and Groups.io are options. Another one that
looks excellent and has a fine community spirit is
https://www.freelists..org/. The question is whether any of these ;
providers could also integrate the previous history of ConstellationTalk
(all 18 years' worth of emails!). I've emailed both Groups.io and
FreeLists to ask them this. (Google is too big to ask.)
Chris, you mentioned "migration to groups.io appears to be a very tedious
process. If someone else is willing and able to shepherd that process that
would be good but I understand there is a queue and it would have to start
soon." Did you hear this from Groups.io? and could you say what you
understand the migration process to be?
I will be happy to pay someone who wants to do the "shepherding", if we
can find a way to do it. We may also have the option to first 'reboot' CT
on one of these other email list providers, and then deal with the
migration later, as long as a download of the archive exists.
Thank you Chris for your magnificent work in this community. Thank you
Barbara M. for offering The Knowing Field as a home—and what a wonderful
one—for this valuable material..
Daniel Gackle
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 3:50 PM Chris Walsh chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Useful and practical points about the various platforms Mishra
I can add that migration to groups io appears to be a very tedious
process. If somone else is willing ang able to shepherd that process that
would be good but I understand there is a queue and it would have to
start soon.
That aside it sounds like google groups might be the best option
Cheers
Chris Walsh
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 at 1:20 am, S Mishra Suloway mishra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx--
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello All
My thanks as well to Chris, and all of you whose sharings and attention
have made the list so valuable since I joined in 2005.
Looking to the future:
I do hope C-Talk doesn’t migrate to Nextdoor.
I’ve used Nextdoor for years to stay in touch with my physical
neighborhood, which is what the platform is designed for; one chooses
which tiny geographical areas one wishes to broadcast to and receive
from.
Nextdoor is full of ads, even more than Facebook. Both those platforms
are more about serving ads than serving information.
And I have ethical objections to Facebook’s content standards and
practices, so I also hope we don’t go to Facebook.
I am on a different list (Copyediting-L) which recently migrated to
*Groups......io* — another of the platforms recommended by Yahoo.
That list remains purely about the subject content, as we have been
accustomed to on C-Talk at Yahoo all these years.
I have no experience with Google Groups, but I have found several other
Google services to be purely about content — aside from bringing you
into the Google ecosystem, where the commercial hook is not directly
based on advertising.
Special thanks to those who are contemplating the work of migrating and
managing for the future!
Regards,
Mishra Suloway
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
S Mishra Suloway
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
On Oct 24, 2020, at 3:29, Tommy Waikiki tommyvacation@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Chris,
I'd like to ask for your consent for me to move Constellation Talk
from Yahoo groups to Nextdoor (as suggested by Yahoo groups.)
I am touched by your earnest decision to let go and by welcoming
someone else to take over.
I take it as a selfless act of gifting: giving without asking anything
in return.
In return, without any future obligation or responsibility of your
part, I take it with my own implied obligation
to continue it as it is.
ConstellationTalk is on Nextdoor but the rules which you have
developed and improved over the years will
stay the same as they are.
We now have 2 more members join me, Daniel G. and Anni M. (and more as
needed) to complete the task.
We are duly following the Spiritual Family Constellation tradition;
You are first, we are second.
Constellation Talk will continue to make you proud.
We ask you to smile kindly upon us as we carry on and in due time be a
little better.
Warm Regards,
Tommy Tran
My task is to reduce entropy,
do away with fear
to become love.
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9420 1425
www.mindfulness.org.au
