Re: Fertility and the fate of the unborn

  • From: david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 14:16:24 +1100

Dear Friends.

Thanks to all in this thread. 

Sabine, I found your story very touching and respectful. Thank you for sharing.

And thank you Gary for mentioning Bert has often wondered why Honoring the Fate of Childlessness is not an option most consider.

Family Constellations is one of the windows to the bigger System. If we all serve the bigger system, then in some way, we could consider that Childlessness has its place, even though the reasons for this maybe are beyond our understanding. In Family Constellations we often see our fates linked to our own or our families situation, even tribal or village or nation, different types of souls similar to the ideas of Daan Van Kampenhout.  But in the bigger System there may be other fates and purposes.

Fertility issues, like health issues can have a tempting quality for facilitators, that to be able to have children is right, however, we also say there is no right or wrong in Constellation work. We try to work without judgement, but this can be challenging and can be influenced by our preferences.

Regarding fertility, I agree with you, Maria Paoli, that the spirit of Motherhood seems to be very important, and the Family can lose this connection.

Also, since fertility in passing on life, then sometimes loyalty to the family can be not to pass on life. Once I saw this from the male side, because of a belief that the family ancestry was 'bad' and the family should end.

But regarding issues of Fertility, and the fate of children, in a broader sense, a couple came once wanting to see the effects of an abortion they were planning. On the first day I just talked to them, and did not do their case because I did not feel comfortable. They wanted to see the effects on their child they already had, and any possible future child. They wanted a boy and they had a girl and now a female pregnancy. Overnight I realised that my uncomfortable feelings were linked to my sense of self and ego.  The next day we did their case. It was rather like doing two Constellations as we saw how each parent had very deep individual reasons for considering the abortion. The Constellation ended with both representatives of the parents and the unborn child embracing and a strong sense that the girl would live and there would not be an abortion. Two weeks later I heard that they had aborted the girl. It was a very interesting case to reflect on. If we respect destiny, then there was no right or wrong answer, and the Constellation was not supposed to fix anything or save anyone?s life. After all, often we see in Constellations that love is not about life or death, but having your true place in the family.  The case raised issues in me of what is the purpose of Constellations and what is my intention as a facilitator. Questions that are with me always. The Constellation gave the couple some understanding of the ties and dynamics of their family. And in terms of healing, maybe the case did heal in ways we don't understand, and maybe not. The effects of the Constellation live on, because once we do a Constellation, its energy is always there.

Thanks to all

David Mathes

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