Exclusion ostracizes, suspension allows hanging together in awareness,potential
awareness for all members of the field ,suspender,suspendees and those who
blink and at times begin to see...
Enneapsychodramatics
Dr.Joseph M. Pirone 2018033080
On Friday, January 18, 2008, at 11:43AM, "sheila saunders"
<peacefulcentre@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Chris, You may have removed Tom from the list before he received the responses
from others to your mail; I think it appropriate that he receive them. I hope
some responded directly to him as well, which I shall do. Thanks for
continuing to provide leadership for this forum. Suspension is a good option
to exclusion, though both hold opportunity. all the best, sheila
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To: tmasthenes13@yahoo.comFrom: chrisjwalsh@xxxxxxxxxxxx.auDate: Fri, 18 Jan
2008 18:38:07 +1100Subject: FW: [ConstellationTalk] When Bert finally croaks .
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Dear Tom,I?m sorry but this email of yours is totally over the top
andinappropriate.Accordingly I have removed you from the list to give you a
chance to coolyour heals and reflect.You can reapply to join the group in two
months if you make appropriateapologies to the people you insulted in your
email especially Alison RoseLevy, Ed Levy Ed Lynch and Bert Hellinger.hasta la
vistaChris WalshMelbourne, Australiawebpage: www.cwalsh.com.auFrom:
ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of tmasthenes13Sent: Friday, 18 January 2008 7:51 AMTo:
ConstellationTalk@yahoogroups.comSubject: [ConstellationTalk] When Bert
finally croaks . .Greetings to one and all! As the "Phantom Constellator" who
"belongsby not belonging," I just dropped in "to see what condition
mycondition was in" and to offer my contribution to the worldwide FCcommunity
when our esteemed Father Anton Suitbert Hellinger finallycroaks. I choose to
describe this future event with a cheeky (actuallythroaty!) English slang verb
for dying because, as Jesus says, wedon't know the hour of our passing, and
ole' Bert might live to be ahundred! Hell, the sonofabitch might outlive me!!!
But the actuarial tables predict otherwise, so odds are, he kicks offbefore I
do. Therefore, I need a way for you all to stamp this postinginto your
memories and contact me when Bert's time is up and hesojourns to that Great
Constellation in the sky. [for those subscribers whose first language is not
English, theetymology of the word "croak" meaning "to die" is either a
referenceto the frog-like sound of the "death rattle" emitted as the
person'slast breath on the deathbed, or else the Irish Gaelic verb
"croch"meaning "to hang" --- not only with a rope but also to "hang on
across," i.e. "to crucify."]Here's my offering. For the last few weeks I have
been obsessivelysinging the moving and stirring German military requiem/elegy
songthat Bert had requested to be sung at his 2006 Bavarian Birthday Bashas
Max Dauskardt reported to us in his posting #3009 dated December18, 2006.
Click here to read Max's
posthttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ConstellationTalk/message/3009The ;
song is known either by its title: "Mein guter Kamerad" (My GoodComrade)or its
opening line, "Ich hatte einen Kameraden" (I once had a comrade.)Here's an
English Wikipedia entry for the song, its use and
history:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_hatte_einen_KameradenI possess a very ;
good and booming Irish tenor voice and I envisionsinging this hymn at whatever
memorial service for Bert we willorganize in Southern California. (I would
also recite his poem to Adolf Hitler in both his Germanoriginal and in my
English translation.)Ideally, the Comrade elegy should be sung by a large
men's chorus, butI'm able to sing for ten men in case I have to sing solo.
Perhapsthis notice might inspire other men to form a chorus.I'd be willing to
travel to any constellation center or conferenceduring the one year of
official mourning for our beloved fatherfigure. What a way to set the mood for
any and all constellations!Hope you have enough floor space for all the
horizontalrepresentatives you'll have! (I can see it now. You know that point
in a constellation when therep's knees start buckling as they get ready to
drop dead? Hey,sometimes it's the most comfortable position in the whole
process.I've actually fallen asleep as rep on the floor, only to wake up tothe
facilitator needing to convince me that I had actually died!)Also, we should
be proactive and consult our erudite winemaster, "OverEasy" Eddie Lynch, who
should be able to provide cases of the twovintage wines: Bert Nouveau and Bert
Classique. (Isn't there a SophieLiebfraumilch vintage as well?)Check Ed
Lynch's wine review in this posting #3550 of August 4,
2007http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ConstellationTalk/message/3550Oh, I ;
just had a thought! Alison, perhaps you and your Eddie Levycould provide some
kosher wine, maybe Mogen David for the Jewishrepresentatives. We'll need both
perpetrator and victim vintages!All of the following You Tube videos are no
longer than 3 minuteslong. Some are just 2 minutes long. Each and every one
plays the samemen's choral rendition of the song at a slow requiem or
elegiactempo--- except for [3] which moves at the very stirring faster tempoof
a battle hymn. [5] has best sound quality.Do watch all 8 videos as they are
not duplicates of each other in thechosen photos or movie clips of the German
soldiers. I give a shortdescription of each video.Tom MellettVan Nuys,
CA==================================(B/W = Black and White)[1] Color still
photos with German sub-titles. Each photo expresses aline of the
songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpM8OPixds<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpM8OPixds&;>
&[2] B/W still photos, with English translation of each line in
sequencehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pj2EE5WNkw[3] B/W & colorized MOVIE ;
CLIPS, sung at very UPBEAT TEMPOhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMPUgaEEXQ[4] ;
Actual B/W MOVIE CLIPS of soldiers marching, deploying, shooting,
etc.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lhxf6ygz0c<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lhxf6ygz0c&NR=1>
&NR=1[5] Good color still photos, no words, but BEST SOUND
QUALITY!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq94CsnSIFo<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq94CsnSIFo&;>
&=======================================[6] Posted by German. B/W still
photos, all corpses or scenes
ofdestructionhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ssJzAtlD0[7] Posted by German. ;
B/W still photos, almost all are living caringfor
wounded.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lh_mJzDrC8<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lh_mJzDrC8&NR=1>
&NR=1[8] B/W still photos, no corpses, only positive military
situationshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWQBSbkaTQI<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWQBSbkaTQI&NR=1>
&NR=1===============================(Poem written in 1809 by German poet
Ludwig Uhland and set to musicby Swiss composer Friedrich Silcher in
1825)=====================Ich hatt' einen Kameraden,Einen bessern findst du
nit.Die Trommel schlug zum Streite,Er ging an meiner SeiteIn gleichem Schritt
und Tritt.In gleichem Schritt und Tritt.Eine Kugel kam geflogen,Gilt's mir
oder gilt es dir?Ihn hat es weggerissen,Er liegt mir vor den F??en,Als w?r's
ein St?ck von mir.Als w?r's ein St?ck von mir.Will mir die Hand noch
reichen,Derweil ich eben lad.Kann dir die Hand nicht geben,Bleib du im ew'gen
LebenMein guter Kamerad!Mein guter Kamerad!======================My literal
translation:-------------------------I once had a comradeYou will never find a
better one!The drums beat for battle.He went right at my sidewith equal gait
and stride.with equal gait and stride.A bullet came flyingMeant for me or
meant for you?It tore him apartHe lies at my feetAs if he was a piece of me.As
if he was a piece of me.He still wants to give me his handAll the while I am
reloading:"I cannot give you my hand!So stay in eternal life,My good
Comrade,My good Comrade!"============================================[Non-text
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