[ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?

  • From: "Paper Music" <data@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:49:43 -0700

Phil, 
    I mean, if you're using a digital sound canvass within the computer and 
sequencing right there, it's just data and dB then only matters with output 
clipping (in the speakers and conversion to audio files). Obviously, anything 
that comes in and out of the computer via a sound card should be balanced to 0 
dB. (Maybe I'm getting older, but 0 dB seems to be getting louder to me ...)
    -Andy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phil Muir 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:19 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


  No you can't.  The absolute hiest level you should be shooting for when 
recording in digital is minus 0.1DB.  Any higher than that and you will be 
clipping your digital converters.

  Regards, Phil Muir
   
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Paper Music 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:57 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


    Mike, 
        I just went back and looked at your original post, and I wanted to 
comment on the dB levels. 
        True, they do say that 0 dB is optimal, but that should be your goal 
when recording analog. Once you get a clean recording, without distortion, 
clipping, or hiss, you can start upping the dB levels in the master. If you're 
recording all digital, with no samples, you could theoretically record as high 
as you want and set your playback levels back to 0 dB. Remember that the 0 dB 
standard is an analog standard.
        Also, for CDs nowadays, I think they're bumping up the levels to get 
attention. That's why TV commercials are so much louder than the programs: so 
you can hear clearly from the bathroom.
        Sincerely, Andy
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Mike Christer 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:45 AM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


      Cheers!


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Omar Binno 
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:28 PM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


        Here's the info.
        
http://store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=10-CWBE1.00-20E


        Omar Binno

        AIM: LOD1116
        Skype: obinno1
        Website: www.omarbinno.com
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Mike Christer 
          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:20 AM
          Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


          Who makes Boost 11?

          Cheers

          Mike


            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Mike C 
            To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:22 PM
            Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


            hey there what you need to do is the following.  There is a plug in 
called Boost11
              you need to insert this as your master bus, and route all of your 
tracks to this.  In the boost11 plugin you will find several presets which you 
can adjust to make sure that your mix sounds great.  This is just one option 
you could do, the other is to normalize your mix by running it through sound 
forge.  However the boost11 plugin does work well for most mixes.  But in the 
long run you might be better off getting Soundforge to complete your final 
mixes.  Its not an expensive program, and is definatly worth it.
              ------ Original Message ----- 
              From: Stacy Blackwell 
              To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:23 PM
              Subject: [ddots-l] 0 dB or higher?


              Hello again.  My new question is that I have maxed the outputs of 
a project until it sounded balanced.  I pushed everything to the 0 dB output 
level.  I thought the mix was good, but when compared to a regular CD, the 
overall volume was a lot lower.  To match the volume, I had to max out some 
buses to 6 dB.  I shouldn't have to do this, should I?  I thought 0 dB was 
where the volume should be for a quality recording.  Are my original recording 
levels too low?  I don't think they were that far below 0 dB.  My MP3 
conversion was also quieter in volume.  Any suggestions?  S.B.    

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