[ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?

  • From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:11:43 -0500

Like I said, there exceptions to the rule, this is 1 of them. You mainly use
the 127 rule when working with soft synths that have dedicated audio output
tracks. That way you controll the audio tracks and not the midi track in
termms of mixing.
 
D!J!X!
 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Paper Music
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:56 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


D!J!X!,
    I keep my MIDI levels at 100, so that there's room for other levels to
be louder or softer than the dominant voice. I use poly-voicing to smooth
out unwanted qualities in an otherwise great voice, and to provide a more
effective attack or decay. So, if I like the sound of a "soft strings", but
it attacks too slowly, I add a wind instrument (like a flute) at a much
lower level. Then, if the percussion section needs to be more prominent than
the strings, set it a little higher. 
    Setting MIDI average-levels to 127 doesn't give you flexibility in the
upper amplitudes of other voices. 
    -Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:33 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?

It is suggested that you keep all your midi volumes at 127 (max) and just
control the audio volumes instead. If using an external synth then fix it's
hardware volume. Of couse there's exceptions to every rule, so it's not a
definite thing.
 
HTH, D!J!X!
 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bobby Lusk
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:15 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


Hello.
     I have a question.  I set all my audio volumes to 0 DB, but what's a
good recording level for midi tracks.  With the vocals set to 0, when I play
my project back, I can hardly hear the vocals without increasing the volume.
Should I lower the volumes for my midi tracks?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?

-0.1 is the max you can go up to. Try compressing some tracks and playing
around with indevidual track volumes, or try using a limitter to see what it
does. Take in to consideration that if you want your mix to breathe or have
some natrual ambiance to it, it will never sound as loud as today's
comercial rock and hip hop stuff, just because those cds have the crap
compressed out of them. It all depends what you are working with. Not that
compressing is bad, but it's an art that must be mastered to be done right.
Some of your tracks might have some peaks here and there which is what's
holding your volume down a bit,  with a compressor or better recording
techniques you might be able to sort this out. I'm sure others will chime in
here with better suggestions and/or tips on how to fix your problem.
 
HTH, D!J!X!
 

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Stacy Blackwell
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:23 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] 0 dB or higher?


Hello again.  My new question is that I have maxed the outputs of a project
until it sounded balanced.  I pushed everything to the 0 dB output level.  I
thought the mix was good, but when compared to a regular CD, the overall
volume was a lot lower.  To match the volume, I had to max out some buses to
6 dB.  I shouldn't have to do this, should I?  I thought 0 dB was where the
volume should be for a quality recording.  Are my original recording levels
too low?  I don't think they were that far below 0 dB.  My MP3 conversion
was also quieter in volume.  Any suggestions?  S.B.    

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