[ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader

  • From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 11:36:21 -0400

Ben.
Try Jaws 14 or maybe 15? Surface Reader doesn't work with 16 or 17. Unfortunately, Tim Burgess, it's author, is swamped with a day job and also has no funds to continue developing Surface Reader. He sure wants to though, so I have every reason to believe it will eventually work with newer versions of Jaws.

You may also notice a slight CPU spike when Surface Reader is running. Tim also knows about this and wants to fix it, when time and funds allow.

Chris

At 03:09 PM 6/4/2016, you wrote:

Phil,
Thanks for your message and your suptle hints what a proper user should do ...
I probably didn't restart my PC after installing the LoopBe30 Midi cables or after installing surface reader. Now after I just did this I dare to say, that it almost is working. The faders are moving when I create a new Project in Samplitude. but I don't hear any speech when I press par example the buttons for selecting or arming tracks on my mackie.
In the surface reader there is a voice menu where one can mute speech. but It's not checked, so I should hear something, right?

Just for the record: I've got Jaws 16.0 on a Swiss German Windows 7 Professional 64-bit system. Samplitude is Pro X2 Suite 13.1.0.131 (DC2), Trial version.
First I turn my pc on, then the mackie MCu Pro control surface, after this I open the surface reader, ant last comes Samplitude.

Ben

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Phil Muir
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juni 2016 19:11
An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader

Some questions. Which version of Jaws are you running this with and which version of Samplitude? When you start your computer, do you first open Surface reader and make sure the surface is working ok?

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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 04 June 2016 18:06
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] AW: Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader

Hi Chris

Thanks a lot, this was very helpful and should indeed be included in the manual ... However I think I have some problems caused by my Mackie unit or probably Surface reader. Sometimes I'm getting the error message: Couldn't open Mackie MCU Pro USB 3.1, which I think refers to the physical port. And when I start Samplitude I'm getting a caught unhandled error exception message. I think I'll write to Tim at raised bar, hopefully I can get it work like you.
And yes, I really was able to replace the BCF 2000 with Mackie MCU Pro in my head, *grin*

Thanks again for your help and kind regards Ben


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Chris Smart
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Juni 2016 16:46
An: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [ddots-l] Re: OOT: Mackie Surface Reader

Hi Ben,

I use a free utility called LoopMIDI. The following instructions are for a BCF2000, LoopMIDI, Surface Reader, and sonar. So, you may need to modify the instructions slightly. Where it says BCF2000, think Mackie Control. (grin)

I got the following help from Rui Vilarinho <ruialby@xxxxxxxxxxx> I think it should be added to the Surface Reader documentation, as this whole virtual ports thing seems to be a bit of a head-scratcher for us. It sure was for me! I've edited it some for clarity, but feel free to change anything if you think it would be easier for people to follow.

Using the BCF2000, Surface Reader, and your DAW:

You need three things installed and working.

First, grab a copy of LoopMIDI from
http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html
and install it. This is used to set up two virtual MIDI ports. As it says on the page, the ports are only active as long as LoopMIDI is running - note that closing its window minimizes it to the System Tray but it remains active. You also have the option to have LoopMIDI run at Windows log on.

Second, you need to have the BCF2000 plugged in, turned on, and in Mackie emulation mode.

Third, you need to have Surface reader installed. It's available from:
http://www.raisedbar.co.uk/surfacereader/surfacereader.htm

In the Setup tab of LoopMIDI, make sure you have two virtual ports listed.
Add them with the plus and minus buttons if necessary. LoopMIDI will probably default to numbering these 0 and 1, but you can change their names to 1 and 2. Name them anything you wish.

If you have already configured your DAW to work with the BCF2000, you need to tell your DAW to use the virtual ports, not the physical ones on the BCF2000. With 2 virtual MIDI ports defined in LoopMIDI, go to your DAW and disable the BCF 2000 MIDI device input and output assignments. Instead, select your first Virtual MIDI port as input and the second virtual MIDI port as output.

Configure Surface Reader with the following settings.
In Hardware Properties:
Set input to BCF2000 port 1.
Set output to your first virtual midi port.

In Display Properties:
Set Input to your second virtual midi port.
Set Output to BCF2000 port 1.

NOTE: The above assumes you are using the BCF2000's USB port for MIDI communication, meaning both port numbers are the same. If, however, you are using the MIDI in and out jacks on the BCF2000, you will have distinct names for input and output.

At 09:26 AM 6/4/2016, you wrote:
>Hi all
>
>If someone out there has experience with the surface reader from raised
>bar: I'm trying to set this up for my Mackie MCU Pro with Sonar and
>Samplitude. I purchased the virtual Midi Cables LoopBe30.
>But now I'm stuck. I'm not sure how these virtual cables must be
>connected. The Help Tutorial in Surface Reader sadly doesn't give any
>examples for LoopBe30.
>So, if anyone got it working and is willing to give me some pointers
>(probably off list) I'd be very grateful.
>
>Kind regards
>Ben
>

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