[ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
- From: "DJX" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:25:23 -0700
Hello, here's how it goes: lets say you have a c sample and a g sample:
let's also asume that the c comes first and the g comes last. You have to
write an sfz file using something like notepad, you are just loading the
wave file directly in to the sampler but you can do more with the definition
files. So you would open up notepad and write something like:
For this we'll make c be the first and lowest note, extend the c sample to
f#, and then use the g sample to start on g and go up to the next c. We are
starting on c4.
<region> sample=WaveFile.wav keycenter_pitch=c4 hikey=f#4
The sample tag tells you what file to use, the keycenter_pitch tells the
sampler what note to play the sample at by default, since your sample is on
the note of c, then we tell it to use the original sample when c is played.
The hikey tag says what the highest key that the sample should be extended
to should be, in this case f#. Now we do g:
<region> sample=WaveFile.wav keycenter_pitch=g4 hikey=c5
Same thig here, and btw the <region> is what defines a new section on the
keyboard just in case you were wondering, they all start with this command.
HTH, if you have more questions let me know; I don't have skipe, I use msn
and aim, so that's my way of communication:-)
TTYL, DJX
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of David Eagle
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:54 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
Hi again, hope you're keeping well (appologies for the groce assumption
of you being well in the first place). Today, I got a chance to play with
SFZ. I've got it working fine, but now I have a few questions, or maybe just
one or two actually. Anyway here we go:
I can asign the sample to play up and down the keyboard, with a rout note,
changing pitch respectively as I move across the keys. However, if I want to
sample more than one note, say I have a real g and a real c sample that I
wish to asign to these notes, how would I do it? I think I understand how,
but I don't get how it would work, if you have to load one wave file in to
the SFZ insert at a time.
Actually that will do for now, as this is quite lengthy.
If its easier to talk rather than email and you have skype then we could
talk that way. I can't remember my username so you'll have to give me yours.
Thanks and sorry for this email's length.
_________________
David Eagle
www.soundclick.com/davideagle
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJX" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
>O yes I forgot there was such a thing, don't worry about it, install the
> vst, and away you go!
>
> Good luck, DJX
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of David Eagle
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:21 PM
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
>
> There seems to be a free version as well as a demo version which has more
> features apparently. It doesn't seem to be advertised very clearly but the
> full version is DXI and the free is VST. As a result, I will have to
> finally
>
> reinstall my VST adapter because it seems to have broken, then I shall be
> sampling like a maniac. Yehhhh!
>
>
>
>
> _________________
> David Eagle
> www.soundclick.com/davideagle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DJX" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:06 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
>
>
>> Not sure, sfz player is free...not normal...
>>
>> DJX
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On
>> Behalf Of David Eagle
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:27 AM
>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
>>
>> 2HI, I can play samples fine now, however the sound periodically fades. I
>> downloaded the DXI version not the vst version, so maybe that's got
>> something to do with it. Do you know why the sound would fade. Its almost
>> like its a demo version.
>>
>>
>> _________________
>> David Eagle
>> www.soundclick.com/davideagle
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "DJX" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:42 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
>>
>>
>>> Ah, try this: copy and paste it if you like:
>>>
>>> <region> sample=chime.wav pitch_keycenter=c4
>>>
>>> You need the <region> tag, it specifies a new region on the keyboard,
>>> the
>>> sample=... Is self explanatory, and the pitch_keycenter=... Is not
>>> necessary
>>> if you specify a key, but if you are mapping across the entire keyboard
>>> (which is not a good idea to do with a single sample) this tag specifies
>>> which key plays the original sample at its original pitch...
>>> Now save this file as test.sfz, not txt, sfz.
>>> Put it on the same directory as your chime.wav file, in the sfz player,
>>> using the jaws cursor, arrow to coordinates x (left and right arrow) 196
>>> (or
>>> somewhere close to that) and y (up and down arrows) 113 (also somewhere
>>> close to this). Then you can left click and a dialog for opening files
>>> comes up, navigate to the file you created, press enter on it, and it
>>> should
>>> work! If you can't find the file, make sure you check and that the
>>> final
>>> extension is .sfz, not .txt, notepad usually appends it on the files it
>>> creates, so if I were you I'd rename it.
>>>
>>> If you can't get it to work, let me know, and we can probably do a voice
>>> convo, as there are small details that need to be worked out, but which
>>> e-mail just make harder...
>>>
>>> HTH, DJX
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of David Eagle
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:06 AM
>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
>>>
>>> Hi, thanks for helping. This is what I have done. I opened notepad and
>>> typed
>>>
>>> in the following:
>>> sample=chime.wav
>>>
>>> The file is obviously called chime.wav. ON the website, it mentions
>>> other
>>> parameters that can be typed in, though I assumed that simply typing in
>>> the
>>> wave file name would trigger all over the keyboard. Is this right? I
>>> then
>>> saved my txt file in the same folder as my wave file. I don't know how
>>> to
>>> use the jaws cursor with soundfonts but I did insert the rjc SFZ DXI in
>>> to
>>> sonar as a softsynth.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> _________________
>>> David Eagle
>>> www.soundclick.com/davideagle
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "DJX" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:22 AM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
>>>
>>>
>>>>O yes the good old sound forge midi triggers...if you still wanna go
>>>>that
>>>> route, try checking midi imputs and outputs in soundforge, maybe in
>>>> options?
>>>> I'm not sure, never tried it myself, though I will get around to it
>>>> sometime...
>>>> However the site I gave is the sfz format site, sfz is a new sample
>>>> format,
>>>> like giga, soundfont, halion etc, which you use a text editor like
>>>> notepda,
>>>> write your samples definitions, place the samples along with the
>>>> definition
>>>> file in a directory, and load the definition file in to the sfz player,
>>>> which ships with sonar 5 but which is also available on the sfz site,
>>>> then
>>>> your samples will trigger from your midi device, depending on how you
>>>> defined them in the definition file. It was made for ppl like myself
>>>> and
>>>> many others, who are half musicians, half programmers etc lol, once you
>>>> learn the concept of the tags and how to use them you will be on your
>>>> way,
>>>> if you need help with it, let me know and we can do a little talk on
>>>> something, me you and whoever else is interested in this sfz stuff, I
>>>> heard
>>>> of it fro Gorden Kent, and from there I flew with it, however I'm sure
>>>> he
>>>> can also give you guys a hand on whatever I don't know...
>>>> The advantage of sfz is that it's a text based coding standard, so we
>>>> don't
>>>> have to go using the mouse to edit parameters on unaccessible sampler
>>>> screens, we can write tags and values to controll envelopes filters and
>>>> anything else we like!
>>>> If ya got more questions, fire away!
>>>>
>>>> HTH, DJX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of David Eagle
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:33 PM
>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
>>>>
>>>> Hi, thanks for the information. My mind is boggling. I will try and
>>>> explain
>>>> what I know.
>>>>
>>>> I have sound forge on my computer as well as sonar. I understand in
>>>> sound
>>>> forge there is a way of inserting and creating regions and I have
>>>> attempted
>>>> to work it out to play samples via my keyboard. For example, I have a
>>>> wave
>>>> file loaded up called chime.wav. It is a single bell chime sound. I
>>>> then
>>>> select all with control A. I then go to insert region. it says name 01.
>>>> I
>>>> keep it at that. It has the start time, finish time, and length of my
>>>> sample. I then select "Midi note on play" as I assume this is what I
>>>> want.
>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>> then press ok. I then play the keyboard and nothing happens. Obviously
>>>> this
>>>> what I am doing is totally wrong, but I don't understand what the
>>>> website
>>>> you pointed me to is saying. It explains what to do but not in which
>>>> program.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for my ignorance. I am grateful for the help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _________________
>>>> David Eagle
>>>> www.soundclick.com/davideagle
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "DJX" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:17 PM
>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey, go to:
>>>>> http://www.rgcaudio.com/sfzformat.htm
>>>>> Read up on it, and then shoot the questions over my way, I'm we'll be
>>>>> able
>>>>> to help you. It's really a great sampler/sampling format, I use it
>>>>> all
>>>>> the
>>>>> time!
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH, DJX
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of David Eagle
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:09 AM
>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: AW: Re: Is a sempler useble for blind people?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi! I am very keen to develop music using samplers. So far I have had
>>>>> to
>>>>> use
>>>>>
>>>>> my bad quality mono sampler on my keyboard. Can you explain how to get
>>>>> my
>>>>> wave files in to the SFZ format. I would be emencely greatful if you
>>>>> could
>>>>> help with this as I have been trying to trigger waves or convert to
>>>>> midi
>>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>> ages.
>>>>>
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