hello, the thing for you to do maby is to select the vocal track from beginning to end. copy that track and put the audio on a nuther track. thin use the nudge feature and move one vocal to the right. this will dubble or make the vocal sound like to people anyway. as for affects i will hav to think on that one. there is a midi affect called the delaylama, you can hav a lot of controll with the key board and it sounds varry cool and some what real. and best of all its free. just google it. hope this helps Shawn. ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurie Simpson To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:22 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Another Sonar puzzle. Hi guys, I'm hoping someone out there has tried this in Sonar. I have a male vocal track. I want to duplicate it so that it sounds like four monks singing in unison in a cathedral. How can I do this in Sonar, or, can I do this in Sonar? If not, is there any way to do this? I've tried the chorus effect in Sonar and in Sound Forge, too synthetic. I tried exporting the vocal track and then importing it to a different track. Both tracks played together sound like one single voice, only a bit louder. Tried cloning the track, same result. Tried bounce to track bouncing the original track to a new one, same result. Any way to do this? Thanks! Laurie