[ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5

  • From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:30:12 -0000

Hmm, good question.  Not sure really.  For example, CT handles affects dialog 
boxes such as the 
Cakewalk FX EQ, a bit better than the free scripts do.  Meaning that all of the 
buttons and sliders 
are fully scripted for.  On the other hand, the guys who write the free scripts 
are improving boxes 
like this all of the time so, I guess it could be a matter of time until dialog 
boxes such as this 
have been totally scripted.  Also, the free scripts, tend to encourage the user 
to use keystrokes 
that are already built into Sonar, rather than implementing new keystrokes that 
are a feature of CT. 
I personally don't think that's a bad thing at all as I personally feel that 
it's better for the 
user to learn the host application, rather than learning CT which, is a bolted 
on to Sonar.  I have 
taken this approach as most of my clients are sighted.  Also, I personally like 
to be able to have 
the option to work without applications such as CT.  This has enabled me to get 
into using Sonar 5 
early on as CT isn't available for that yet.

Having said all that, I am not knocking CT as there could be some people out 
there who would find 
exclusively using Sonar on it's own with free scripts, too much of a learning 
curve.  CT comes with 
a ton of well written documentation which, if you don't have any working  
knowledge of the audio and 
MIDI environment, could be useful.  Having said that, I haven't ever really 
need to or, used any of 
the tutorials that ship with CT as I find the Sonar help system, more than 
adequate for my needs.

On the other hand, CT does seem to make the Sonar environment a bit more 
robust.  Meaning that, if 
you click on something E.G, such as opening a softsynthe then, CT will do 
exactly what it is 
supposed to.  Also, pressing function key F2 in order to read and reset record 
and playback metres, 
is far less clunky than the free scripts alt control and the letter M.

my conclusion on this is that to go from Using CT to free scripts is probably 
less of a learning 
curve if you never used CT and Cakewalk Pro Audio 9.  I am one such user who 
never did use CT with 
Cakewalk Pro Audio at all.  I barely used Cakewalk Pro Audio at all and when I 
did, that was with 
free scripts that shipped with Jaws.  I started using Sonar, long before any 
scripts were available, 
free or CT.

On the other hand, I find some of the keyboard shortcuts that have been 
implemented in the free 
scripts, a bit more intuitive in the track view.  For example, control, shift, 
and the letter f, 
will jump you to the affects column, Control shift and N, for the name column, 
control shift and V, 
for the volume column and control shift and P for the pan column.  I personally 
find that way easier 
than having to try and remember how many times I need to press a keystroke in 
CT in order to jump to 
say, column 10 in the track view.

Regards, Phil Muir

P J Muir Productions
www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hf" <neep23@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5


> Having used both, Phil what can't you do with the free scripts that you can 
> do easier with CT?
> And vice versa.
> HF
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:19 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5
>
>
>> CT 4 doesn't work with Sonar 5.  You will ether need to wait for CT for 
>> Sonar 5 to come out or, 
>> use the free Jaws scripts that are available. Note: Dancing Dots don't 
>> support the free scripts. 
>> Having said that, they do work quite well.
>>
>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>
>> P J Muir Productions
>> www.philmuir.com/
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David P Shortland" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:52 AM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] CT4 & Sonar 5
>>
>>
>>> Greetings from Down Under....:)
>>>
>>> Is anyone using CT4 with Sonar 5?
>>>
>>> CT4 and Sonar 4.03 are very happy together, just having a little trouble 
>>> when I start getting a 
>>> lot of trax (around 30 or so) with plugs in etc etc... I feel that JAWS 
>>> loses focus quite a lot 
>>> and cannot find name of trax or even locate trax themselves.
>>>
>>> I did read somewhere to locate a track by name , but could not find it on 
>>> reread of CT Tutorial, 
>>> perhaps someone could point me in the correct direction?....:)
>>>
>>> I do not wish to compromise my system if I install Sonar 5.
>>>
>>> With much thanx....
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> (Still really really enjOying CT) ....:)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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