[ddots-l] Re: Focusrite Saffire line info

  • From: Phil Muir <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2020 20:26:26 +0000

You're very welcome :-)


On 7 January 2020 20:21:41 "James Malone" <malone_j@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Phil, best news I heard today.


From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 12:12 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Focusrite Saffire line info


James. There have been issues with a particular Firewire driver on Windows 10. That’s still easily fixed by replacing the Windows 10 Firewire driver with the one that we placed in the Samplitude Dropbox. Here’s the link:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/lmjhsqadppjyetf/1394_OHCI_LegacyDriver.msi?dl=1




From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: 07 January 2020 04:47
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Focusrite Saffire line info


Well DJX, don’t mean to ask a dumb question, but what is the chances of rolling back the windows update?

I’m sure a lot of people will ask the same question if there uncertain. I have both products, and was running in to the same problem. In regards of the device that uses FireWire, Win10 no longer supports the FireWire card when you upgrade according to Sweetwater. In the case of the Scarlet 6 Jen interface, it crashed on me once.

Best: James


From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DJ X
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 6:51 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Focusrite Saffire line info


OK guys (especially Focusrite/saffire users amongst us), thought I’d share some valuable info with you guys.

If you own a Saffire pro40, or any other unit in the Saffire line:

1. If you are on Windows 10, *DO NOT** upgrade past Windows 10 1809. I was working with one of their techs last week on a problem and the MixControl, while it will install on Windows 10 1903 and higher, there are quite a few issues with the MixControl, it is very unstable. So if you are experiencing issues with your Saffire/MixControl and you are using Windows 10 1903 (spring 2019 update) or higher, this may be the cause of your problems.
2. If you use a Saffire with both MacOS and Windows, if you are moving, or have moved to Catalina, you need to use MixControl 3.9. This is an updated native 64bit app which is compatible with macOS Catalina. However, this version of MixControl will update your Saffire’s firmware. When you try to run the Saffire on Windows, MixControl, which is still at 3.7 for Windows, will complain because the firmware on the Saffire will be newer than the current firmware that MixControl 3.7 ships with. So this will effectively prevent you from using your Saffire on Windows after it was updated on the mac. If you need to use both operating systems, you’ll need to stick with macOS Mojave and MixControl 3.7 on the mac, so you can use the same MixControl3.7 on Windows. If you have managed to place yourself in this predicament, where your Saffire has been updated and can no longer be used in Windows MixControl, contact Focusrite; they’ll give you a file to downgrade your firmware, which then can be upgrade to the firmware version that ships with MixContro3.7.
3. I asked Focusrite if they could update MixControl for Windows to include the new firmware, but that update for the mac was the last of it; MixControl is now out of support, so no more updates are coming. ☹ Yes this also means that Windows 10 issues will not be fixed either…


So there you have it, sad news in deed, as these are great units! Luckily for me, I’m on an LTSC version of Windows 10, so I have a few years before I have to move on and part with my Saffires… If you are using the Saffire with Windows 7 and plan to still do so for some time, then you are OK for now, as MixControl3.7 still works great with Windows 7.


That being said, I figured we should probably have some kind of discussion about what other interfaces are out there with similar specs and quality to the Saffire line, since we often get the post asking about a good audio interface. As far as I know, the new MixControl editions are not usable as of yet, correct? So that would mean that the Clarret line and Scarlet gen 2 and up from Focusrite are not real options for those who need to be able to create custom mixes, tweak settings etc. So to that extent, those of you who are using units with similar specs to the Saffire line, what are you using, and how accessible is the control panel? Does anyone have any updates on using the new Focusrite MixControl apps?


Now, and I don’t mean to be rude, and most of you that have been on this list for years and know me know that this is not my style or how I would usually do things, but for various reasons, I must politely ask, if you don’t have anything meaningful to contribute, or something which will further this discussion to the intended purposes, please refrain from posting. Furthermore, don’t reply to this thread to complain about your current audio interface or talk about anything other than units that are *comparable* to the aforementioned Saffire line from FocusRite. If you don’t know about these units or what they even are, or you don’t know what we are talking about, then odds are that you probably shouldn’t be posting to the thread. 😊


Sorry if this sounds harsh or rude, but I’m sure most of you DDots list veterans know why such measures are necessary!


Regards, DJX

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