Hi list members, i'd like to know the number of people who have signed the patition that Tim Burgess has had on his site. I'm sure that i have signed it. Maybe if more of us sign it maybe we may be able to get some things done. Just think of the number of people who belong to the NFB as an example. while I don't agree on all the things they stand for, i'm sure that some of the work that has been done in the area of music technology wouldn't be possible if people were not willing to take risks. I also know that with out dancingdots starting things off by working with david Pinto we wouldn't have the access to sonar producer version 8.5 if it wasn't for David Pinto who has worked harder than anyone that i can think of to make a mainstream product more accessible for us to use. Now we have the ability to help Tim get funding and David Pinto get funding as well so that they both can continue there work. Who would have ever thaugh that we could use a control surface to control sonar producer version 8.5. We have that accessibility now. I think the only thing is missing is a patch editor librian program for all of the midi gear that we own for those of us who want to edit and create new sounds.