No holy war here. You are right on point. You nailed it about apple being more tightly integrated with their audio infrastructure. And yes. Upgrades break everything sometimes, no matter what platform you're on. -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Dotson Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:40 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Macs and VoiceOver This is "Holy War" stuff; but I think it is the more tightly controlled Apple environment that makes it that way, although listening to the Studio Project Network podcasts, I certainly heard lots of horror stories about people jumping on upgrade wagons too early and having lots of pain for their pleasure. (grin) Ain't no perfect world, neither MAC nor Linux, it's the user's knowledge and keeping things organized, and not testing on a production machine. I just had my first necessity to reload an OS (except for learning how to do it independently) since 1989, and it was after a JAWS upgrade v10 from v9, on a Vista Machine and they clobbered the Security Group... Microsoft said, reformat and reload, so pretty good for 20 years of using MicroSquish stuff I think. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim mcauslan" <axdr89@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:50 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Macs and VoiceOver > Hi List, > > I'm thinking about buying a back up dedicated music production machine and > I'm intreagued by this thread. > I know a few sighted musicians and a few non-musicians and they all say > that > mac machines are better in every way than pcs. I refer to the stability > of > the operating system and to the over all performance of software > applications, and to the build quality of the machine. > Is this the case, or just Mac snootiness, smile. > I know they're a lot more costly than pcs. > Cheers > > Jim McAuslan from sunny Findhorn > axdr89@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > skype jmca011 > > PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! > To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > and in the Subject line type > unsubscribe > For other list commands such as vacation mode, > click on the immediately following link: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or > send a message, to > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > and in the Subject line type > faq > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.11.27/2021 - Release Date: 3/24/2009 4:00 PM PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq