Hi, Bill Machan, could you email me off list? I have a question and do not wish to flud the list about it. Well, possible could be answered here on list. I'm taking classes, or rather will be taking classes at ACC North Ridg campus in Austin pretty soon, and they do not have CakeTalk or Sonar there. They use only macs in there recording classes, but I still wish to take the coruses. Do you know hwo i could go buy probably getting them to get CT and sonar from Dancing Dots for the school so I can do what they'd be doing in ProTools or any of the other programs they use? Next week, from 9 to 1, Monday through Friday I'll be in a recording workshop there and if I like what they do there, I could start taking classes in the fall. The programs they use are not even compatible with Voiceover neither. Do I refer someone from the campus to you? Guys, how did you handel any thing like this when you whent to colege? Thanks! Dom