[ddots-l] Phasing on Pianos

  • From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:03:50 -0700

MessagePhil,

You mentioned this in terms of the tuning. Can you give me a spot-on education 
on what you mean when you say you've never been wild about phasing on pianos? 
What does the phasing do to the sound, tone, and/or tuning?

Dave

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phil Muir 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:11
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano


  O yeh.  Still smiling here!  Still don't like the 6th D, being particularly 
out of tune when compared to the rest of the instrument. When tuning pianos at 
college, I would have been made to tune that note again and rightly so.  To me, 
that makes the whole thing sound inconsistent.  Not personally keen on the 
phasing of the sound.  That's what I love about sound.  One mans greatest piano 
ever is another mans out of tune out of phase sounding piano, smile.  Of 
course, this is coming from someone who's a piano tuner so, I am never wild 
about phasing on pianos anyway.


  Regards, Phil Muir
  Accessibility Training
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  From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:31 PM
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano


  Hi Phil,

  I too notice tuning issues and the phasing sound when notes were held.
  This maybe deliberate as the phasing didn't sound digital, plus, they seem to 
have chosen a piece of music that had a lot of held chords almost pointing out 
the phasing quality.
  The imperfections made it sound like a real piano. 
  I also slightly detune instruments in my horn section to create a more 
believable horn section sound. 
  The problem with some of these other pianos, is they sometimes sound too 
pure, all real pianos have their faults whether it be tuning issues or just 
that the notes resonate too long...
  I could hear the body of this piano like someone was sitting at it, not 
triggering it from a mother keyboard.

  One other thing I liked about this piano when taking a quick look at spec, it 
isn't 70GB like the Quantum Leap Piano, I believe this virtual piano is only 
6GB. 

  That's my personal take on it, the question is, is Phil still smiling ha ha.

  Seriously Phil, I must thank you for your work with Superior, had a storming 
gig last Week and the dance floor had people on it from the second song of the 
night.

  Steve W 


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Phil Muir 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:18 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano


    Wasn't epersonally that impressed with this myself.  It didn't entirely 
sound in tune.  I could hear a slight phasing on the notes and as for the 6th 
D, it's frankly, out of tune.

    Regards, Phil Muir
    Accessibility Training
    Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
    UK +44-1747-821-794
    Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
    E-mail:
    info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    URL:
    http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/




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    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
    Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:05 PM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Amazing virtaul piano


    Wow Kevin, 

    If I hadn't been told that it was a Virtual piano, I would have just 
excepted that it was a quality recorded piano.

    There's some great products that work with Kontakt, such ashame these 
companies don't have these products using Dimension Pro.

    Steve W 

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Kevin Gibbs 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:45 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Amazing virtaul piano


      No idea whetehr this is accessible.  It does sound amazing.   
       Kevin,

       http://www.artvista.net/Virtual_Grand_Piano.html 


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