Well, I personally have always been happy with the pre-amps on my Soundcraft Spirit Pholio concel. That's why I haven't purchased any others. If it ain broke, don't fix it. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions Music And Audio Production URL: www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:45 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Question abou t pre amps Hello: Since we all use an external mixer with our computer when recording with Sonar; does anyone on here also use a separate pre amp, or are the ones in the mixer enough if we're using a high quality mixer? Is a separate pre amp really necessary, especially to make vocals or kick drums sound fatter, as in the case of hip hop? I'd really appreciate anyone's feedback on this before I invest in a separate pre amp. Thanks. Omar Binno